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ALL POSTSCan Bell level up beyond level 6 ?
<p>The reason I'm asking is the rare skill that Bell has increases his stats as long as he looks up/wants to reach Ais. But at the pace that Bell is levelling up (level 4 in 4 months ?), I wouldn't be too surprised if Bell reaches level 6 in an year from the start of the story. So, he has 8 months to level up twice. Quite possible given that he has almost single-handedly fought Juggernaught & we don't how the dungeon will expose its fangs on level 37 (he's alone with Ryu). So, all in all it's quite possible for him to reach level 6 in 8 months from now. If you ask, where I'm going with this with all this timeline ? I think Ais levelled up to level 6 almost around the time Bell reached level 2, so unless Omori pulls 1 out of the hat she won't be levelling to 7 anytime soon.
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<p>It was never confirmed nor was it in the description of the skill itself that he had to be in love with just Aiz. The skill is born out of his love for Aiz not that he has to have feelings just for her. His love can switch to another person, allowing the skill to work like usual.
</p><p>If his aspiration is Aiz than the skill works, right? Of course, because Aiz has inspired Bell. Now if something were to happen and his aspiration for her is compromised for some reason than the skill becomes inert.
</p><p>Now say for example he becomes inspired by Lyu, than the skill becomes active once again.
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<p>Citrus Tachibana wrote:
It was never confirmed nor was it in the description of the skill itself that he had to be in love with just Aiz.
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<p>Are you saying multiple or one person at a time? Your original post makes it sound like you think the skill would apply to multiple people at once, which isn't correct. However, you are correct in that it could still work if he switched his aspiration with someone else, but story wise that'd never happen </p>
<p>Are you saying multiple or one person at a time? Your original post makes it sound like you think the skill would apply to multiple people at once, which isn't correct. However, you are correct in that it could still work if he switched his aspiration with someone else, but story wise that'd never happen </p>
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<p>The skill also say "the effect will continue until the feelings remain the same" not "you can change the object of your feelings at will"
Furthermore the spirit of the ability is his "Single-Minded Pursuit" of Aiz so i'm not sure the skill will work with someone who by now is ,status wise, at his same level as Ryu and there is not "pursuit" anymore.
The new target of the skill (and his love) should be someone much stronger then him like Asterius Or Ottar.
And so the the new love triangle can begin... </p>
Furthermore the spirit of the ability is his "Single-Minded Pursuit" of Aiz so i'm not sure the skill will work with someone who by now is ,status wise, at his same level as Ryu and there is not "pursuit" anymore.
The new target of the skill (and his love) should be someone much stronger then him like Asterius Or Ottar.
And so the the new love triangle can begin... </p>
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The skill also say "the effect will continue until the feelings remain the same" not "you can change the object of your feelings at will"
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<p>Technically it's "as long as feelings persist" </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Furthermore the spirit of the ability is his "Single-Minded Pursuit" of Aiz so i'm not sure the skill will work with someone who by now is ,status wise, at his same level as Ryu and there is not "pursuit" anymore. </p> </i></div>
<p>You could say the same of Ais when Bell reaches her level but that's another matter entirely </p>
<p>Technically it's "as long as feelings persist" </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>Furthermore the spirit of the ability is his "Single-Minded Pursuit" of Aiz so i'm not sure the skill will work with someone who by now is ,status wise, at his same level as Ryu and there is not "pursuit" anymore. </p> </i></div>
<p>You could say the same of Ais when Bell reaches her level but that's another matter entirely </p>
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<p>Skills effect can change depending on circumsatances...for instance look at Aiz Avenger. As long as she imagines the person infrint if her is a monster it increases her power. She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
</p><p>So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
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<p>Dmwesh wrote:
So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
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<p>Basing in the description, Avenger works on anything Ais sees as a monster. So, even if in a strange way, it still follows it’s description and doesn’t change as you say. </p><p>Liaris Freese is specific about how it works only based on his feelings of love. Therefore, it couldn’t work based in his desire to become stronger. </p>
<p>Basing in the description, Avenger works on anything Ais sees as a monster. So, even if in a strange way, it still follows it’s description and doesn’t change as you say. </p><p>Liaris Freese is specific about how it works only based on his feelings of love. Therefore, it couldn’t work based in his desire to become stronger. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Dmwesh wrote:
Skills effect can change depending on circumsatances...for instance look at Aiz Avenger. As long as she imagines the person infrint if her is a monster it increases her power. She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway. <p>So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6 </p> </i></div>
<p>Avenger gives already to Aiz a big attack bonus against all monsters (and a bigger bonus against dragon types), Levis was already an half-monster (with even her personal magic stone),so Aiz don't needed to force her skill too much to make it work against her.On the other hand Bell , to change " feeling of being in love" to "desire to be stronger" will need an all new skill instead of Liaris Freese (and even if it's difficult it could even happen) </p>
Skills effect can change depending on circumsatances...for instance look at Aiz Avenger. As long as she imagines the person infrint if her is a monster it increases her power. She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway. <p>So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6 </p> </i></div>
<p>Avenger gives already to Aiz a big attack bonus against all monsters (and a bigger bonus against dragon types), Levis was already an half-monster (with even her personal magic stone),so Aiz don't needed to force her skill too much to make it work against her.On the other hand Bell , to change " feeling of being in love" to "desire to be stronger" will need an all new skill instead of Liaris Freese (and even if it's difficult it could even happen) </p>
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She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
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<p>Like others have pointed out, Revis is technically a monster as a Creature so it would've worked regardless </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6 </p> </i></div>
<p>The whole point of Liaris Freese existing is so Bell could catch up to Ais and be her man. It's practically impossible story wise for some other girl to come along and take Ais' place, much less motivate him enough that it'd keep giving him fast growth past level 6 </p>
<p>Like others have pointed out, Revis is technically a monster as a Creature so it would've worked regardless </p> <div class="quote"><i> <p>So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6 </p> </i></div>
<p>The whole point of Liaris Freese existing is so Bell could catch up to Ais and be her man. It's practically impossible story wise for some other girl to come along and take Ais' place, much less motivate him enough that it'd keep giving him fast growth past level 6 </p>
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<p>Avenger worked against Revis because she was a Hybrid between Monster and Human so she still fulfilled the requirement of being an Monster. That Aiz imagined Revis to be a Dragon Type shouldnt work with triggering the anti dragon effect of Avenger. It is more then plausible to say she triggered the last effect and that is that Avengers power rises based on Aiz hate and Aiz pretty much despises Dragons. This is the part of the Skill description Im refering to:
</p><p>"Avenger (復讐姫アヴェンジャー): Avenger heavily increases Ais' attack power against monsters, massively increases her attack power against dragon type monsters, and the effect rises based on her hate."
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Avenger worked against Revis because she was a Hybrid between Monster and Human so she still fulfilled the requirement of being an Monster. That Aiz imagined Revis to be a Dragon Type shouldnt work with triggering the anti dragon effect of Avenger. It is more then plausible to say she triggered the last effect and that is that Avengers power rises based on Aiz hate and Aiz pretty much despises Dragons. This is the part of the Skill description Im refering to: <p>"Avenger (復讐姫アヴェンジャー): Avenger heavily increases Ais' attack power against monsters, massively increases her attack power against dragon type monsters, and the effect rises based on her hate." </p> </i></div>
<p>It's funny as Bell become stronger thanks to the litteral "power of Love" while Aiz do the same with the power of Hate... </p>
Avenger worked against Revis because she was a Hybrid between Monster and Human so she still fulfilled the requirement of being an Monster. That Aiz imagined Revis to be a Dragon Type shouldnt work with triggering the anti dragon effect of Avenger. It is more then plausible to say she triggered the last effect and that is that Avengers power rises based on Aiz hate and Aiz pretty much despises Dragons. This is the part of the Skill description Im refering to: <p>"Avenger (復讐姫アヴェンジャー): Avenger heavily increases Ais' attack power against monsters, massively increases her attack power against dragon type monsters, and the effect rises based on her hate." </p> </i></div>
<p>It's funny as Bell become stronger thanks to the litteral "power of Love" while Aiz do the same with the power of Hate... </p>
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