The reason I'm asking is the rare skill that Bell has increases his stats as long as he looks up/wants to reach Ais. But at the pace that Bell is levelling up (level 4 in 4 months ?), I wouldn't be too surprised if Bell reaches level 6 in an year from the start of the story. So, he has 8 months to level up twice. Quite possible given that he has almost single-handedly fought Juggernaught & we don't how the dungeon will expose its fangs on level 37 (he's alone with Ryu). So, all in all it's quite possible for him to reach level 6 in 8 months from now. If you ask, where I'm going with this with all this timeline ? I think Ais levelled up to level 6 almost around the time Bell reached level 2, so unless Omori pulls 1 out of the hat she won't be levelling to 7 anytime soon.
Dmwesh wrote: So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
Basing in the description, Avenger works on anything Ais sees as a monster. So, even if in a strange way, it still follows it’s description and doesn’t change as you say.
Liaris Freese is specific about how it works only based on his feelings of love. Therefore, it couldn’t work based in his desire to become stronger.
Skills effect can change depending on circumsatances...for instance look at Aiz Avenger. As long as she imagines the person infrint if her is a monster it increases her power. She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
Avenger gives already to Aiz a big attack bonus against all monsters (and a bigger bonus against dragon types), Levis was already an half-monster (with even her personal magic stone),so Aiz don't needed to force her skill too much to make it work against her.On the other hand Bell , to change " feeling of being in love" to "desire to be stronger" will need an all new skill instead of Liaris Freese (and even if it's difficult it could even happen)
Dmwesh wrote: She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
Like others have pointed out, Revis is technically a monster as a Creature so it would've worked regardless
So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
The whole point of Liaris Freese existing is so Bell could catch up to Ais and be her man. It's practically impossible story wise for some other girl to come along and take Ais' place, much less motivate him enough that it'd keep giving him fast growth past level 6
Avenger worked against Revis because she was a Hybrid between Monster and Human so she still fulfilled the requirement of being an Monster. That Aiz imagined Revis to be a Dragon Type shouldnt work with triggering the anti dragon effect of Avenger. It is more then plausible to say she triggered the last effect and that is that Avengers power rises based on Aiz hate and Aiz pretty much despises Dragons. This is the part of the Skill description Im refering to:
"Avenger (復讐姫アヴェンジャー): Avenger heavily increases Ais' attack power against monsters, massively increases her attack power against dragon type monsters, and the effect rises based on her hate."
Avenger worked against Revis because she was a Hybrid between Monster and Human so she still fulfilled the requirement of being an Monster. That Aiz imagined Revis to be a Dragon Type shouldnt work with triggering the anti dragon effect of Avenger. It is more then plausible to say she triggered the last effect and that is that Avengers power rises based on Aiz hate and Aiz pretty much despises Dragons. This is the part of the Skill description Im refering to:
"Avenger (復讐姫アヴェンジャー): Avenger heavily increases Ais' attack power against monsters, massively increases her attack power against dragon type monsters, and the effect rises based on her hate."
It's funny as Bell become stronger thanks to the litteral "power of Love" while Aiz do the same with the power of Hate...
At first Bell wanted to be equal to her so that he would at least be able to sit next to her.
After Xenom Arch
Bell wants to be stronger than her. Bell will definitely be stronger than Ais. That doesn't mean he won't love Ais anymore. Only then will capacity disappear. If Bell doesn't love Ais anymore. It does not disappear when Bell reaches level 6. Then it would be a false love. And a lie-based skill
When he reaches level 6, Bell will be able to be near Ais. If his love disappears, it will be a love of garbage. A garbage ability.
And I don't think so. But it remains to be seen. It won't be long and it will reach level 6. It is already close to 5.
And that ability is very rare and safe. So it shouldn't be based on a lie. Anyone can lie with false feelings. But anyone can truly love someone? No
Angelo Gabrini wrote:
Dmwesh wrote: She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
Like others have pointed out, Revis is technically a monster as a Creature so it would've worked regardless
So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
The whole point of Liaris Freese existing is so Bell could catch up to Ais and be her man. It's practically impossible story wise for some other girl to come along and take Ais' place, much less motivate him enough that it'd keep giving him fast growth past level 6
Lyu is the only other girl with the potential to be a source of aspiration for Bell.
The skill did manifest because of Aiz. Does this mean he he has to have just one source of aspiration? Why not multiple sources of aspiration to amplify the skill's effects. I don't ever remember reading that it was limited to JUST one source/person.
Yes, I mentioned "multiple women" but I didn't pursue it in my following post.
Citrus Tachibana wrote:
Angelo Gabrini wrote:
Dmwesh wrote: She even imagined Revis to be a dragon and the skill ignored that Revis isnt a dragon and increased the power anyway.
Like others have pointed out, Revis is technically a monster as a Creature so it would've worked regardless
So to me as long as Bell wants to become stronger even if Aiz isnt the target anymore, i feel the skill will continue to grant him fast growth beyond lvl 6
The whole point of Liaris Freese existing is so Bell could catch up to Ais and be her man. It's practically impossible story wise for some other girl to come along and take Ais' place, much less motivate him enough that it'd keep giving him fast growth past level 6
Lyu is the only other girl with the potential to be a source of aspiration for Bell.
The skill did manifest because of Aiz. Does this mean he he has to have just one source of aspiration? Why not multiple sources of aspiration to amplify the skill's effects. I don't ever remember reading that it was limited to JUST one source/person.
Yes, I mentioned "multiple women" but I didn't pursue it in my following post.
It is not aspiration. It's love. It is the desire to deserve to be with Ais because he loves her. That is the aspiration. But skill refers to how he feels about Ais. It's not the same thing.
Citrus Tachibana wrote:
Does this mean he he has to have just one source of aspiration? Why not multiple sources of aspiration to amplify the skill's effects. I don't ever remember reading that it was limited to JUST one source/person.The kanji of the skill means wholehearted/single minded aspiration. Basically, that Bell is so in love that he doesn’t think in someone else. It would be weird that it worked based in multiple at once.
Bell is a pure and transparent soul if he had a relationship other than with the woman he loves, he would no longer be a pure soul. he loves Aiz so much that he no longer thinks of anyone but her.