I agree with Drake here. Other Familias nowhere close to Zeus and Hera and author plans to end story in 6 months. It's pretty much obvious that Bell will do the things like Albert did. I mean he can't totally destroy power scale right?

Drake Atlas what do you think Bell's last level will be? level 10 or more?

Well you can believe what you want but if Omori will decide to go with the route of making Bell level 10 or some shit and having him fight OEBD alone it sure will be disappointing and boring route to make in my opinion. But I doubt he wants to do so cuz if he did all of Aiz hard work to get stronger would be just thrown away like a piece of garbage for example. And even Haruhime and her magic of granting multiple people temporary level up, is clear attempt to bring current Orario adventurers to a level as close or even beyond Hera and Zeus. So I doubt that at this point there is a point of Bell going there alone. I don't really mind of in the end a main character doesn't become 'top dog'. And Author in the last interview stated that the LN is done in about 70%. 70& of the story and Bell is upper level 4. So I don't see him manage to get level 10 orhigher in spawn of the next 6 months

@Noon123 The most logical thing Omori can do is make Bell a lvl 10 and let him fight alone to defeat the OEBD. When Bell becomes lvl 10 he has the strength of an lvl 13 because of his ridiculous ss and sss stats in each lvl.

@Apocrypha4124312 Omori already destroyed his own established power system with Vol 14 and the 3rd Anni event. Nobody in Orario except Bell has the potential to defeat the OEBD. Not even Aiz herself because even tough her attack power could be equal to that of an lvl 9+ because of Avenger and Ariel, even that is inconsistent because it contradicts her entire fight with Revis, every other stat of her is still that of a low lvl 6 so she would be one shoted by the OEBD easily. The most logical thing storywise that Omori can do is making Bell absolutly OP with becoming lvl 10 and soloing it because nobody, not even Ottar and the Unknown lvl 7 would be usefull. Even if they lvled uped to lvl 8 normaly and would be lvl uped by Haruhime to lvl 9 because the OEBD easily destroyed Heras lvl 9 captain and she would be a mid to high lvl 9 compared to Ottar and the Unknown who would be only behinning/low lvl 9.

Sanjouno Haruhime

Class: Saber/Caster

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Parameters

Strength: D

Endurance: C

Agility: C

Mana: A

Luck: B

Noble Phantasm: EX

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Class skills:

Item Construction A - due to her cooking and work as a maid, Haruhime is able to craft amazing food and even form some from this air to work with similar to Tawara Tōta, but more limited as she can only create enough to feed 100 people at most, but with more variety of food to create, not just rice

Territory Creation B- -thank's to her having close ties with being guarded and inside, she is able to recreate the Heath Mansion, pleasure district, or the Belit Babili to increase all her allies parameters by one so long as they remain inside and lower the enemies parameters by 1 when inside, however, haruhime has to see them as an enemy, so if she's fighting someone like Bell, this will lose it's effect's and even backfire, but the area can change by Haruhime's command, so you could walk in circles if she desires it

Magic Resistance A - thank's to her role as a supporter, she has high magic resistance that is thank's to her cloak, however, if she removes this cloak, she loses this skill

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Skills:

Kokonoe: B - this gives Haruhime the ability to have her and her allies overcome class advantage and disadvantage and increase their overall abilities except for Luck while also increasing her own strength and defense

Mikuzumenohou: A - this increases her magic and act's lot High-Speed Divine Words when she sings her spell's instead of simply speaking them, but this also has the added benefit of making her magic attack's cost less mana so she can last longer in a fight

Renard's Pheromone: EX - this skill comes from her time as a prostitute who caught the eye of the goddess of beauty Ishtar to have a charm stronger than even Ishtar's due to her kind and gentle nature and hypnotizes male enemies to do her bidding with ease as she can even command many to take their own life is she desired, and it's not easy to defend against since the only way to defend against it is to have an unbreakable will that won't falter to womanly charm, and those know for seducing women or being attracted to women in their legend are the easiest targets, and even if it doesn't charm them, it will weaken them by also acting as a sleep agent to knock people out, but women are immune to this skill

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Noble Phantasm:

Kazuki: C+ - anti-unit - a sword Welf Crozzo made for everyone in his party to use (Kazuki can also be used as a normal sword). her skill with it isn't to good, but it's effective as Kazuki is not a normal magic sword and is able to store and use the magical energy of its user instead of a normal ones that just breaks after using all energy, as a caster, it's used as her magic staff to attack.

Reverse Veil: C- - anti-unit - this is the cloak Bell used to turn invisible with, it's more got getting away, however, as a caster, haruhime uses this to stay hidden as her allies fight for her and stay's alive granting them support magic from the side

Goliath Robe: C+ - anti-unit - a cloak that enhanced all of Haruhime's Paramiter's by 1, it also enhances her abilities and defense, as well as grant her the skill magic resistance

Uchide no Kozuchi: EX - anti-army - this is a special spell that is able to enhance and power up a servant's abilities for an entire 15 hours compared to 15 minutes in her life, but now needs 2 day's to rest before using it again unless she gets a supply of Mana from her master to recharge, it prevents the servant's it effects from losing as much mana when using skill's or NP otherwise as well as a special effect based on the servant, on someone like Hercules, if he lost 11 of his lives, this NP can restack all his lives, and the effect of his 12 live's would still be in effect, so he'd be even stronger than before, as well as this NP also nullifying the downside effect's of a servant's class, such as madness enhancement to make the berserker still able to reason much better than before, however, this is only if she is in a close range of the servant's who get this, and she has to be alive, so she's a big target

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Lot's of guesswork, but I assume it fits well enough, we don't know much which I think is a crime to be honest, but she works best when being supported by other's to fight for her, someone like Hercules pair's best with her since her NP can save him and be doom to everyone else, but this is best worked with on Bell, as she wished to be by his side, she would actually get a few more skill's and passive skill's if she is with Bell, but that is if they are on the same side

"all of Aiz hard work to get stronger would be just thrown away like a piece of garbage for example."

Ais' hard work has already been thrown away the moment MC Bell shows up with his effortless growth

Bell is going to save Ais so it's highly likely that she'll be weaker than him

"is clear attempt to bring current Orario adventurers to a level as close or even beyond Hera and Zeus."

Yes, that's what Oomori admitted in his interview because he needed a convenient way of making adventurers stronger because of his poor planning

"I don't really mind of in the end a main character doesn't become 'top dog'."

I agree that it's unlikely that Bell will reach level 10 or so, but level wise he'll still be the strongest because of his previous levels

So a level 5 Bell will likely be at level 6 or 7 status, especially in speed which may be in the level of a low tier level 9, which is still impressive in of its own in my guesswork here, but I think the Fate rule will somehow limit Bell, but if he is destined to kill the one eyed black dragon, then he will have different stat's I think

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Bell Cranel

Class: Saber/Ruler

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Parameters

(not including the raise due to his skill's)

Strength: A+

Endurance: A+

Agility: EX

Mana: B+

Luck: EX

Noble Phantasm: A+++

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Class skills:

Magic Resistance: EX - Bell possessed the development ability of magic resistance on his falna when he was still alive and thus he possesses this skill as well, and thank's to his battle with the OYBD, it's very high.

Independent Action: A+ - due to acting on his emotion's despite all opposition's to do the right thing, he is able to act on his own even if it's against his master's wishes if he is to do the right thing

Essence of the God of Love: A - thank's to the affections and obsessiveness of the goddess Freya, as well as his skill Liaris Phrase Bell has immunity to charm's and high divinity with goddesses of love, this also gives Bell trace amount's of divinity at B rank

Rabitto Futto: EX - this was his name at level 4 due to his high luck, as a result, his luck no matter his class will always be EX due to the blessing of the god's, however, he loses this when facing a god or goddess he acknowledges as good such as Hestia or Artemis, but deal's neutral damage to god's like Ishtar or Apollo as he opposed them in his life

Dragon's Core: A++ - this grant's Bell immense amount's of magical energy similar to a dragon's power, and can rival most of the weaker god's and goddesses in term's of power, and is much harder to break than other spirit cores, however, he can lose himself in battle if he is not careful and do more harm than good in the process

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Skills:

Cursed Affection of the Gods: EX - Having been loved by not only goddess Hestia but also Freya and other goddesses who desired him as well as some male gods like Apollo, Bell posses the highest rank of this skill. Every parameter other than Mana and Luck are raised up by 2 parameters, but this skill makes him lose one parameter when faced with a god or goddess type servant as well as be cursed to be lusted after by them no matter the god or goddess.

Liaris Freese: A++ - this increases Bell's abilities in a fight to grow stronger and stronger the longer a fight lasts, so as long as he keeps fighting, he'll get strong enough to overpower them, however, this is only if he desires to surpass them that is, and also have the effect of having the power and give him a battle continuation where the harder he is pushed and tougher the battle is for him, the stronger he will become, where he will become more powerful than his enemy/enemies becomes as well as have the skill to take them down

Argonaut (Argo Vesta) E-EX - this skill is entirely situational, with a short charge, it can act as a weak Mana Burst, however, once it's charged fully, it has the power to overcome almost anything in a matter of speaking, even anti-world NP such as Ea or a Barrier NP like Avelon, though, this will cost him lot's of his own mana and will damage him as well, he can either use this in his weapons or body and boost their attack's, and as a servant, the drawback is far less than it was in his life, but combining this with his NP's can have consequences that can get him killed so even if he does surpass Ea or break through Avelon, it will still cost him his life anyway so only if he wants to bring his opponent with him can this be achieved

Slayer of the Black Dragon: EX - this skill drastically increases Bell's fighting ability to dragon/beast/evil/threat to the world type enemies and is used in conjunction with his abilities and power as well as give him a massive boost in power as he can heal as well till he accomplishes his goal of slaying the enemy

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Noble Phantasm:

Kazuki (Dragon Slayer Sword): EX - anti-unit - his main weapon made by his best friend Welf Crozzo (Kazuki can also be used as a normal sword). Kazuki is not a normal magic sword and is able to store and use the magical energy of its user instead of a normal ones that just breaks after using all energy, and thank's to the fact it was this sword that killed the OEBD, it deals extra damage to dragon/beast/evil/threat to the world type enemies, but only if Bell wields the sword for the sake of good, and has the power of the OEBD within the blade to be used by Bell whenever he wields it's power.

Reverse Veil: C- - anti-unit - this is the cloak Bell has to turn invisible with, it's more got getting away, however, caster's or servant's with strong detection's can still detect where he is

Hestia Knife: E~A++ - anti-unit/anti-Fortress - a weapon made by Hephaestus and gifted to him by Hestia, the Hestia knife is able to harm and deal extra damage to Evil enemies as well as divine being's, when unleashing his full power, it will fuse with Kazuki and be similar in power if not exceed the power of the legendary Excalibur King Arthur wielded, however, he can only use this NP 2 time's a week or one time with a 4 day cooldown period or he runs the risk of using all his magical energy and breaking his own core

Argo-Kazuki: EX - anti-army/anti-fortress - It's Bell's strongest attack that can be used only once. By ignoring a limit and fully charging and using all his abilities at once fused with the power of the OEBD within the sword to utilize its power, he can surpass any and all other Noble Phantasm's and cannot be rivaled by even anti-world NP, however, this comes at the cost of his own life so it's a last-ditch effort attack, but due to the power of the OEBD supporting his spirit origin, he can at least use this 3 time's safely, but need's to rest properly after or else he can kill himself using this attack

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Slight difference and better than the last one, but I feel it's either underpowering or overpowering with Bell's level of power in that situation

Well I hope you won't get it wrong but I prefer my version over those two. I mean Luck could pass off somehow but agility at EX? The only person who could have agility at EX if he was made a servant would be Minato(from Naruto) cuz he can teleport. I mean you said that you wanted to make him more ballanced but I don't really see that anywhere. You just made him completly broken and it doesn't make much sense at all. And why magic resistance is so high thanks to the battle with OEBD?

For examle I don't know why Argonaut would have been able to blast through avalon or EA, seems ridiculous to me. This attack is nowhere near as powerful as those two things. I could wonder about Argo-Kazuki but I also don't know why it's use is on the cost of Bell life. Also doesn't make sense cuz in the end he is charging his sword so it should be natural that the weapon will be the one that breaks not Bell.

And how would Hestia knife and kazuki even merge? No matter how good of a blacksmith Welf will become I don't think he will be able to make magic sword that could do something like that. There is many things that don't make sense.

And I don't think that level 5 bell will be in status with level 7 in anything, and especially he wouldn't be on pair with his speed with level 9. Lets get real there. So yeah I don't want to boast but I think my version was better. Don't take it personally please.

@Leon fierce @Apocrypha4124312 If you guys don't mind can I ask some questions about fate and danmachi parameter comparison and a few other things?

I actually want to ask that to, in term's of power, where DO both stand in it, for Danmachi, the status and level system and Fates Parameters