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ALL POSTSWhen do you think Bell Vs Ottar will happen?
<p>When this eventually happens I think it'll be great but I don't know how the author would approach the situation but below is one scenario I've thought of.
</p><p>One scenario I can think of is AIS angering Ottar and starting a personal (not familia) fight when they are alone but AIS is eventually outmatched and is about to get killed and before anyone (like Loki familia when they realise whats happening) can intervene Bell with his incredible Agility saves AIS but bell doesn't know what's happening or who ottar is (they haven't met have they) when bell intervenes he blocks Ottars strike with such force and speed that Ottars blade breaks (not the udueas blade). Ottar verbally attacks bell saying that he's pathetic and not worthy of being a hero (so that Bell can overcome it and fight him to please freya) Bell gets angry and then fights Ottar and is able to somewhat hold his own against him for a minute or two, during this Ottar is speaking and tormenting bell making bell go beyond his limits. Bell having to use everything starts to fight unconsciously and only with his instincts since thinking and fighting was slow and risked him dying, this means that bell is basically unconscious with only his fear of death and wanting to save AIS keeping him going. The force between each one of Ottars strikes send shivers throughout bell and even some of Bells bones start braking but because of his state of mind he doesn't feel pain. Throughout this Bell is shouting 'MORE MORE MORE MORE MORE' as in more strength. Ottar becomes impressed with his strength (hopefully bell is high level 5 at this point) ottar realising that bell can't endure any more and seeing this as an opportunity to create a hero stops and starts speaking properly to bell and any onlookers-
</p><p>(by this point the executives of both the Freya and Loki familia are here as well as all of the hestia familia and some other main characters like Hermes, ryuu, Hephaestus, take, miach, ganesha and others)
</p><p>-Ottar says something like he acknowledges Bell and that he needs to get stronger so that they can fight him again otherwise he will kill all of his familia. Ottar also in an attempt to raise bells notoriety says 'get stronger and surpass me because I KING OTTAR ACKNOWLEDGE YOU AS THE PRINCE WHO WILL SUCCEED THE KING'. then Ottar and the rest of the Freya familia leave with Freya telling bell she loves him in secret so only bell and Loki realise. Bell then passed out in his feet again leaving everyone there to be on awe of him and his bravery making them unable to move and even making Finn to say 'this guy really, he's impossible'. as Bell falls over eventually AIS catches him and says thank you.
</p><p>I'm sorry theres a lot there but I couldn't hold myself back and I know that when bell and ottar fight the narrative will be much better than mine.
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Is this fight have to happen?
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<p>Let me tell you that I admire your vivid imagination but there are several questions that I
ask me let's see this: </p><p>What is Ottarl's reason for attacking Aiz Wallenstein? </p><p>-I'm entering your story let's admit that Ottarl is angry, why is he, knowing that the only thing that could make Ottarl angry will be related to Freeya.
I can hardly see Aiz say anything to move towards Freeya who could get angry with Ottarl, knowing that she granted him the favor to train with Ottarl (with a condition that we ignore) </p><p>Do you sincerely think that a Bell level 5 can only last 2 seconds against an angry Ottarl? </p><p>we all saw the passage where Aiz tried to save Bell from the minotaur and Ottarl were barring, Even Aiz level 6 with an Ariel and an avengers could not even touch Ottarl who seemed to have more fun than anything else, it is almost impossible for Bell to face him at level 5, especially if he is fighting seriously. </p><p>- Is Ottarl jealous in nature towards Bell? </p><p>-Ottarl executes every order to the letter and is nothing other than Freeya's doggie, but did he show signs of jealousy? I don't personally think otherwise he would have done it more like Allen towards Bell. </p><p>Is Ottarl likely to shout his nickname "KING" to prove his superiority? </p><p>Honestly I see Ottarl very badly doing this, after we know very little about his interactions with the other characters. </p><p>
In conclusion to all this Ottarl could possibly be confronted with Bell if Freeya tries something that could upset Bell Crannel, we have a whole bunch of connections between Bell, Aiz, Freyaa which requests a favor from Aiz, La Loki Famillia who do not get along not with La Freeya Famillia, Freeya who would like to appropriate Bell, I am so hyped by this situation and how Freeya will do to leave Bell no chance. </p>
ask me let's see this: </p><p>What is Ottarl's reason for attacking Aiz Wallenstein? </p><p>-I'm entering your story let's admit that Ottarl is angry, why is he, knowing that the only thing that could make Ottarl angry will be related to Freeya.
I can hardly see Aiz say anything to move towards Freeya who could get angry with Ottarl, knowing that she granted him the favor to train with Ottarl (with a condition that we ignore) </p><p>Do you sincerely think that a Bell level 5 can only last 2 seconds against an angry Ottarl? </p><p>we all saw the passage where Aiz tried to save Bell from the minotaur and Ottarl were barring, Even Aiz level 6 with an Ariel and an avengers could not even touch Ottarl who seemed to have more fun than anything else, it is almost impossible for Bell to face him at level 5, especially if he is fighting seriously. </p><p>- Is Ottarl jealous in nature towards Bell? </p><p>-Ottarl executes every order to the letter and is nothing other than Freeya's doggie, but did he show signs of jealousy? I don't personally think otherwise he would have done it more like Allen towards Bell. </p><p>Is Ottarl likely to shout his nickname "KING" to prove his superiority? </p><p>Honestly I see Ottarl very badly doing this, after we know very little about his interactions with the other characters. </p><p>
In conclusion to all this Ottarl could possibly be confronted with Bell if Freeya tries something that could upset Bell Crannel, we have a whole bunch of connections between Bell, Aiz, Freyaa which requests a favor from Aiz, La Loki Famillia who do not get along not with La Freeya Famillia, Freeya who would like to appropriate Bell, I am so hyped by this situation and how Freeya will do to leave Bell no chance. </p>
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I think Bell will eventually need to be recognised as the strongest so he will need to beat Ottar and my suggestion will set the stage for the real bout
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<p>@gozulolz
</p><p>I appreciate your opinion and reply. I agree your points are good but they can be countered for example.
</p><p>The first issue you brought up can be solved by how AIS would attack Ottar which doesn't necessarily mean that Ottar would need to be angry, I believe that Ottar will say something about AIS's familia members which will make her angry and as we have seen she does have a temper and will initiate the fight. I think by the time this happens Bell would be high level 5 close to level 6 meaning that it gives enough time for Freya to ask for the favour from AIS which would clear AIS from any debt.
</p><p>The second question is resolved by how AIS was a new Level 6 at that point and not properly used to her strength and I think that your comparing AIS to Bell which you shouldn't do. This is because up until now BELL has had at least one SSS rank in his basic stats each time he Leveled up which has never happened before so a high level 5 Bell could beat a recent level 6 AIS since bells power would be great. Also Ottar would not hurt Bell to much because of freya but he would use enough strength to overwhelm him making Bell go full power and make everyone else in awe of bell to make bell grow even further.
</p><p>for your third question Ottar may be jealous slightly of bell but in reality he wants Freya to be happy since she is his world (Familia Chronicles episode Freya is evidence of this) and knows that freya would be happy if bell got stronger. Also Ottar personally wants birth of a new hero as well I think so everything he does like the minotaur at the 9th floor was originally his idea when he said that Bell needs to get rid of his fear. Also Ottar isn't like Allen, I don't think Ottar wants to be Freya's lover like the rest of the familia, I think he sees her as a more mother figure and wants to remain by her side making sure she's safe.
</p><p>About your fourth question, I don't think that Ottar will say something like that either but I do think that it will be cool if Bell got a coronation of sorts from Ottar.
</p><p>About your conclusion if Freya realises that AIS is in her way then she might ask AIS to fight Ottar to the death for the favour she owes or maybe just order Ottar to kill her in which case Bell can intervene at the last moment.
</p><p>I'm not an author and there's a lot of plot holes but I just think that it was cool
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<p>@Redeye44
</p><p>The thing with your stage is that there are a lot of problems in it like Ottar’s attitude and the reason why he would attack Ais in the first place. What would be more possible is that their fight happens when Freya tries to get Bell or to prove Bell and see how much he has grow.
</p><p>@Gozulolz
</p><p>Ais fought Ottar only using Ariel not Avenger. And she is stronger than Ottar using both due to being said that Revis was stronger than Ottar and Ais easily surpassed her using both having most probable the power of a low Level 8. Still this doesn’t mean that she would win as he has his skills that can make him more powerful and his magic.
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<p>Without any level boost a real fight (not training) will happen if Bell is at least high end lvl 6 or early lvl 7.
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<p>@Redeye44
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</p><p>Yes, with more precision I see a little more clearly, but there is one thing that I would like to add: </p><p>Freeya is the kind to take Bell Crannel's training to the extreme telling Ottar to hold back would go against his basic method, moreover why Freeya seems so tormented by Aiz, why doesn't she go after it in Hestia for example: or one of the women around Bell who all try in turn to attract Bell, while Aiz "for the moment" tries nothing more than to train him and give him a lap pillow times, did she see love between them (see that she specializes in this) or is she can be jealous that Aiz propelled her at a crazy speed, did she can be seen only a danger in their relationship and want to prevent any contact with her for forcibly appropriating Bell? </p><p>When I think about it more deeply Freeya seems hostile towards Aiz than when she gets too close to him, so I deduce that if we want Aiz to be much more in danger she will have to get even closer to Bell to the point of annoying Freeya for wanting to kill her, this will definitely sign the war against the Loki Famillia, which would be terrible for Orario, Bell being a friend of Aiz will never let that happen and your scenario will be appropriate from this moment. </p><p>Ottar could be the boss of the end of the Freeya arc (if arc on it there is) basing me on events to relate in the seasons one or all these plans to advance Bell by exposing it to an extreme danger to lead at the death of a lot of adventurer, let's see that I see in her a woman ready to do anything to get Bell, it will imply killing people, leading me to think that she would risk to fail to seduce Bell, moreover I imagine a "blackmail" that Freeya will make to Bell to come into his famillia by kidnapping Aiz, as insurance, which could explain the implication of the Loki famillia in history and where Ottarl will be the last rampart before power saved Aiz pushing Bell to its maximum and maybe even the expulsion of Freeya in the other world, considered as too dangerous for Orario </p>
</p><p>Yes, with more precision I see a little more clearly, but there is one thing that I would like to add: </p><p>Freeya is the kind to take Bell Crannel's training to the extreme telling Ottar to hold back would go against his basic method, moreover why Freeya seems so tormented by Aiz, why doesn't she go after it in Hestia for example: or one of the women around Bell who all try in turn to attract Bell, while Aiz "for the moment" tries nothing more than to train him and give him a lap pillow times, did she see love between them (see that she specializes in this) or is she can be jealous that Aiz propelled her at a crazy speed, did she can be seen only a danger in their relationship and want to prevent any contact with her for forcibly appropriating Bell? </p><p>When I think about it more deeply Freeya seems hostile towards Aiz than when she gets too close to him, so I deduce that if we want Aiz to be much more in danger she will have to get even closer to Bell to the point of annoying Freeya for wanting to kill her, this will definitely sign the war against the Loki Famillia, which would be terrible for Orario, Bell being a friend of Aiz will never let that happen and your scenario will be appropriate from this moment. </p><p>Ottar could be the boss of the end of the Freeya arc (if arc on it there is) basing me on events to relate in the seasons one or all these plans to advance Bell by exposing it to an extreme danger to lead at the death of a lot of adventurer, let's see that I see in her a woman ready to do anything to get Bell, it will imply killing people, leading me to think that she would risk to fail to seduce Bell, moreover I imagine a "blackmail" that Freeya will make to Bell to come into his famillia by kidnapping Aiz, as insurance, which could explain the implication of the Loki famillia in history and where Ottarl will be the last rampart before power saved Aiz pushing Bell to its maximum and maybe even the expulsion of Freeya in the other world, considered as too dangerous for Orario </p>
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