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ALL POSTSWill Bell change from Famillia to be stronger?
<p>Bell could he change Famillia?
</p><p>I find the Hestia Famillia very weak to realize Bell's wish and to hang out in the lower floors of the dungeon I first thought of a more likely solution like getting help from either the loki famillia or the Freeya famillia I find this theory more likely than the one I am currently proposing.
</p><p>But I would like to embark on a crazier theory which is: Bell who joins another Famillia.
</p><p>This theory was born from an idea that I had by connecting the possible events of Freeya which will wish to appropriate Bell, and from the fact that Bell will need to evolve and to increase of level but with levels 2 it would seem very inaccessible but in the hypothesis or Bell would be constrained to join another famillia by force or by pure material need (to become stronger) while keeping contact with the hestia famillia which would be according to you the most suitable Famillia to join for Bell ? Is this a likely theory in the future?
</p><p>Give me your opinion, let's detail why or not it might be a possibility, and what do you think is the most likely theory for Bell Crannel to progress?
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<p>Gozulolz wrote:
Whatever Freeya's attempts indirectly will bring Aiz closer to Bell, how could she proceed to impact Aiz without impacting Bell and to make sure that Bell is no longer "in love" with Aiz but with Freeya, I am waiting to see your ideas.
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<p>I said above. Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p>
<p>I said above. Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p>
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<p>Gozulolz wrote:
Whatever Freeya's attempts indirectly will bring Aiz closer to Bell, how could she proceed to impact Aiz without impacting Bell and to make sure that Bell is no longer "in love" with Aiz but with Freeya, I am waiting to see your ideas.
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I said above. <p>Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p> </div> <p>No Freya has not a chance for this. </p><p>1. Riveria, Gareth and Finn will always be near to "observe" her when not all three. </p><p>2. Wiene is in the goddamn Xenos village that has three categorized lvl 5 Xenos (Lyd, Ray and Gros) as protectors or even Asterius himself plus she doesnt even know where this Village is. Sorry that doesnt make any sense. </p><p>You didnt state anything thats making acussing Aiz possible and even if Freya suceeds with this Bell will not believe it and will search for the real culprit like in Ryuus case. The only thing that Freya achieves with this is making bell to fall even more in love in Aiz or better to say devote himself for her (i hope this it the right word this). </p>
I said above. <p>Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p> </div> <p>No Freya has not a chance for this. </p><p>1. Riveria, Gareth and Finn will always be near to "observe" her when not all three. </p><p>2. Wiene is in the goddamn Xenos village that has three categorized lvl 5 Xenos (Lyd, Ray and Gros) as protectors or even Asterius himself plus she doesnt even know where this Village is. Sorry that doesnt make any sense. </p><p>You didnt state anything thats making acussing Aiz possible and even if Freya suceeds with this Bell will not believe it and will search for the real culprit like in Ryuus case. The only thing that Freya achieves with this is making bell to fall even more in love in Aiz or better to say devote himself for her (i hope this it the right word this). </p>
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<p>Drake Atlas wrote:
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<div class="quote">Ardamon wrote:<div class="quote">
<p>Gozulolz wrote:
Whatever Freeya's attempts indirectly will bring Aiz closer to Bell, how could she proceed to impact Aiz without impacting Bell and to make sure that Bell is no longer "in love" with Aiz but with Freeya, I am waiting to see your ideas.
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I said above. <p>Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p> </div> <p>No Freya has not a chance for this. </p><p>1. Riveria, Gareth and Finn will always be near to "observe" her when not all three. </p><p>2. Wiene is in the goddamn Xenos village that has three categorized lvl 5 Xenos (Lyd, Ray and Gros) as protectors or even Asterius himself plus she doesnt even know where this Village is. Sorry that doesnt make any sense. </p><p>You didnt state anything thats making acussing Aiz possible and even if Freya suceeds with this Bell will not believe it and will search for the real culprit like in Ryuus case. The only thing that Freya achieves with this is making bell to fall even more in love in Aiz or better to say devote himself for her (i hope this it the right word this). </p> </div> <p>1.Freya can use her magic on monsters. That includes Xenom 2.Riviera, Gareth, Finn know Ais trained with Otarr? And do you owe Freya service? . I do not believe. So not always near her. 3.It probably won't work. But something like that happened And not need atack direct Wiene. Assassination you know that? Then put evidence that clearly leads to Ais. </p><p>But again I don't bilive it's work for Bell lose feeling for Ais but can be theory </p>
I said above. <p>Freya doesn't have to attack Ais directly. </p><p>Instead, Freya can make traps for her. For her image to suffer. That way Bell will not see the same thing. </p><p>I think Freya he's pretty good at that. </p><p>For example, it can kill the xenom. And let Ais be a scapegoat. That means killing Wiene. </p><p>The blame will be thrown on Ais. More than sure. This can cope with destroying Ais's image in front of Bell And this can lead to a change in emotion. In the hope that Bell will no longer respect her and love her. </p> </div> <p>No Freya has not a chance for this. </p><p>1. Riveria, Gareth and Finn will always be near to "observe" her when not all three. </p><p>2. Wiene is in the goddamn Xenos village that has three categorized lvl 5 Xenos (Lyd, Ray and Gros) as protectors or even Asterius himself plus she doesnt even know where this Village is. Sorry that doesnt make any sense. </p><p>You didnt state anything thats making acussing Aiz possible and even if Freya suceeds with this Bell will not believe it and will search for the real culprit like in Ryuus case. The only thing that Freya achieves with this is making bell to fall even more in love in Aiz or better to say devote himself for her (i hope this it the right word this). </p> </div> <p>1.Freya can use her magic on monsters. That includes Xenom 2.Riviera, Gareth, Finn know Ais trained with Otarr? And do you owe Freya service? . I do not believe. So not always near her. 3.It probably won't work. But something like that happened And not need atack direct Wiene. Assassination you know that? Then put evidence that clearly leads to Ais. </p><p>But again I don't bilive it's work for Bell lose feeling for Ais but can be theory </p>
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</p><p>1. Freya doesnt even know where the Xenos village is, so she cant do shit here.
</p><p>2. We dont even know if Freya is informed or knows about the Xenos at all.
</p><p>3. Nobody in the Loki Familia knows that Aiz trained with Ottar in exchange that Aiz will do freya a favor.
</p><p>4. Finn, Riveria and Gareth know that Aiz is somewhat not really "stable" person, so they always watch over her.
</p><p>5. Yes Freya can charm monsters but that sill doesnt change the fact that she still doesnt know where the Xenos village is or if she even informed that Xenos even exist to begin with.
</p><p>6. The Xenos could still resist her charm like Lyd did with Dix magic (i know that it isnt similiar to charm but that is just an example that some of them could still resist)
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@Ardamon
</p><p>1. Freya doesnt even know where the Xenos village is, so she cant do shit here.
</p><p>2. We dont even know if Freya is informed or knows about the Xenos at all.
</p><p>3. Nobody in the Loki Familia knows that Aiz trained with Ottar in exchange that Aiz will do freya a favor.
</p><p>4. Finn, Riveria and Gareth know that Aiz is somewhat not really "stable" person, so they always watch over her.
</p><p>5. Yes Freya can charm monsters but that sill doesnt change the fact that she still doesnt know where the Xenos village is or if she even informed that Xenos even exist to begin with.
</p><p>6. The Xenos could still resist her charm like Lyd did with Dix magic (i know that it isnt similiar to charm but that is just an example that some of them could still resist)
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<p>What I need to remember is Otarr led Asterius to Bell's location. I hope I'm not wrong. </p><p>About Freya's power. After the episode Freya we know that her power is charming is much greater than has been seen so far. </p><p>And I can find out about their village. Without too much trouble. With the exception of Bell there is no one who is resistant to her charm. Be it man or monster. I wonder if he can even charm the dragon with one eye. If power of Freya is as high as in Freya's story. </p><p>She can even use Ais directly for her plan. </p>
<p>What I need to remember is Otarr led Asterius to Bell's location. I hope I'm not wrong. </p><p>About Freya's power. After the episode Freya we know that her power is charming is much greater than has been seen so far. </p><p>And I can find out about their village. Without too much trouble. With the exception of Bell there is no one who is resistant to her charm. Be it man or monster. I wonder if he can even charm the dragon with one eye. If power of Freya is as high as in Freya's story. </p><p>She can even use Ais directly for her plan. </p>
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<p>2. We dont even know if Freya is informed or knows about the Xenos at all.
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<p>Freya know about them, but like you said she doesn't know where they are and they know from Fels to avoid the Freya Familia. Plus doing something to the Xenos should further change Bell's soul. </p>
<p>Freya know about them, but like you said she doesn't know where they are and they know from Fels to avoid the Freya Familia. Plus doing something to the Xenos should further change Bell's soul. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Ardamon wrote:
<p>What I need to remember is Otarr led Asterius to Bell's location.
I hope I'm not wrong.
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<p>1. When Asterius was on the surface not in the Dungeon. It was a coincidence that Ottar saw him in the first place. </p>
<p>1. When Asterius was on the surface not in the Dungeon. It was a coincidence that Ottar saw him in the first place. </p>
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<p>Kevhunt06 wrote:
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<div class="quote">Drake Atlas wrote:
<p>2. We dont even know if Freya is informed or knows about the Xenos at all.
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<p>Freya know about them, but like you said she doesn't know where they are and they know from Fels to avoid the Freya Familia. Plus doing something to the Xenos should further change Bell's soul. </p> </div> <p>That's exactly what I was thinking when I gave this option. At Bell's injury. His soul would not be so affected. The blow would be far too big and unrealistic if it attacked a member of the Hestia family or even Hestia or Ais. </p><p>But with Wiene it would work. Anyway, whatever he does will fail. That's just what we are going to think about. But he will not succeed. It is clear that Bell stays in the Hestia Familia until the end of the story. </p>
<p>Freya know about them, but like you said she doesn't know where they are and they know from Fels to avoid the Freya Familia. Plus doing something to the Xenos should further change Bell's soul. </p> </div> <p>That's exactly what I was thinking when I gave this option. At Bell's injury. His soul would not be so affected. The blow would be far too big and unrealistic if it attacked a member of the Hestia family or even Hestia or Ais. </p><p>But with Wiene it would work. Anyway, whatever he does will fail. That's just what we are going to think about. But he will not succeed. It is clear that Bell stays in the Hestia Familia until the end of the story. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Ardamon wrote:
<p>That's exactly what I was thinking when I gave this option.
At Bell's injury.
His soul would not be so affected.
The blow would be far too big and unrealistic if it attacked a member of the Hestia family or even Hestia or Ais.
</p><p>But with Wiene it would work.
Anyway, whatever he does will fail.
That's just what we are going to think about.
But he will not succeed.
It is clear that Bell stays in the Hestia Familia until the end of the story.
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<p>Did you read the Xenos Arc at all? Bell was completly devasted when Wiene died in his hands. Bells soul should and would get clouded or lose its shine at all or turn gray what Freya doesnt seem to like (seriously nobody of us knows how the Souls really work here) at all. So no it wouldnt work with Wiene, the only thing Freya achieves by killing her or even any other Xenos is "ruining" Bells clear shining Soul and when he finds out that Freya was the culprit she wont get Bell at all or even draw his rage and hatred towards herself. Sorry but i dont really see how Freya will get Bell at all at this point because everything she does is futile. </p><p>Kill Hestia Bell would be devasted and will most likely lose his brilliance Soul. </p><p>Kill his friends same in the hestia case. </p><p>Kill Xenos the same as the above. </p><p>We could go on like this for the entire day and we wouldnt see the light in end of the tunnel. Freya at this point doesnt have even the slightest bit of a chance to get Bell because everything at this point will "ruin"/distinguish/let bell lose brilliance Soul. Freya has waited to long at this point, she should have taken the moment she saw him because he didnt had any connections beside hestia but that changed drastly. Bell has friends now, people he sees as his family and losing them will ruin him forever. We know Freya is going to let people go when there Soul stays/holds there shine and that will most likely happen to bell as well. </p>
<p>Did you read the Xenos Arc at all? Bell was completly devasted when Wiene died in his hands. Bells soul should and would get clouded or lose its shine at all or turn gray what Freya doesnt seem to like (seriously nobody of us knows how the Souls really work here) at all. So no it wouldnt work with Wiene, the only thing Freya achieves by killing her or even any other Xenos is "ruining" Bells clear shining Soul and when he finds out that Freya was the culprit she wont get Bell at all or even draw his rage and hatred towards herself. Sorry but i dont really see how Freya will get Bell at all at this point because everything she does is futile. </p><p>Kill Hestia Bell would be devasted and will most likely lose his brilliance Soul. </p><p>Kill his friends same in the hestia case. </p><p>Kill Xenos the same as the above. </p><p>We could go on like this for the entire day and we wouldnt see the light in end of the tunnel. Freya at this point doesnt have even the slightest bit of a chance to get Bell because everything at this point will "ruin"/distinguish/let bell lose brilliance Soul. Freya has waited to long at this point, she should have taken the moment she saw him because he didnt had any connections beside hestia but that changed drastly. Bell has friends now, people he sees as his family and losing them will ruin him forever. We know Freya is going to let people go when there Soul stays/holds there shine and that will most likely happen to bell as well. </p>
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<p>I find Ardamon's theory very interesting, but as DarkAtlas said this could "ruin" the soul of Bell so a murder would be fatal for Freeya, what we know is that "maybe" Freeya will use Aiz as pawn for his plan we all know that Freeya will do anything to get there, including indirect murders (but I would say it will be his last trump card) my questions are:
</p><p>How will she do to deactivate Larias freese without tainting the soul of Bell?
</p><p>If Freeya uses Aiz directly (by killing a xenos for example and make him a perfect plan for Bell to see with his own eyes) or indirectly (by putting lots of traps to tarnish his reputation until Bell is deeply disappointed with her, for example) would that still cause Bell's soul to be tainted?
</p><p>Whatever Freeya 's plan, will it not result in a merger of Bell and Aiz?
</p><p>I have turned the puzzle all over the place I do not see how Freeya could conquer Bell and consequently make him enter his famillia (which she will surely fail)
</p><p>If you have a logical outcome to the potential success of Freeya, I would like to read you.
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