The only time we have seen Bete using Hati was against Valetta

He also used it in SO12. Against Filvis.

the injuries he recieved was before he even activated Hati.

Quote from the LN:

""Shoot him, you half-wits! And this time, make sure you blow him away!" she commanded, stirring the rest of her troops back into action. As they began their magic-sword barrage anew, the underground chamber was once more filled with a brilliant deluge of light, a whirling storm of flames forming around Bete.

"Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha Huh?"

Only…

Her laughter among the explosions quickly came to a halt.

She watched.

As with every new wound opening on the wolf’s body from the magic

salvo, the flames encapsulating his limbs grew in strength.

The hellish conflagration pouring from his body grew more fierce, more crazed, the more he was attacked."

Same for the time he used it against Filvis. Another quote:

"Lefiya had not missed the signal from Bete and unleashed her barrage

with perfect timing.

"Fusillade Fallarica!"

Flaming arrows poured down on Filvis, causing Hati's inferno to explode. It was a suicide attack. No, it was covering fire and a boost to Hati's power. Thanks to the magic and damage drains, Bete's fangs became infinitely more powerful. The werewolf gritted his teeth and endured the burns, and Filvis was consumed by rage as dozens of flaming projectiles hit her. She was speechless as the flames lapped at her."

So what I say does have backing.

Bete has shown a incredible huge power spike with his beastification that even a High lvl 6 Phyrne was trashed around by him with ease.

Taking on someone from the same level is way easier than taking on someone from a higher one. Aisha is better than every Level 4 besides Ryuu, although she is a completely new one, while everyone who has taken on someone from a higher level (regardless of how strong they are on their level) has always been dramatically inferior.

Aiz at lvl 5 used against Revis and was trashed around by her, the same revis who was easily send flying by a punch from finn whose strength is really low.

Bell had a lower Strength than Hyakinthos in their final fight and also send him flying several meters away in a single punch. And he didn't break a finger, unlike Finn. So him sending her flying doesn't mean much.

Finn also overwhelmed her due to a higher fighting prowess, a combination of both physical prowess and technique. Finn is a more skilled fighter than Ais, and as a high Level 6 he also had a higher physical prowess.

As for your attitude, well, keeping a minimum of respect does seem like something beyond your capability. Personally, I don't care what you say to me, so I won't take any measure against you as an admin. However, keep in mind that if you talk like that to another user I will delete your comments, and may even block you. And so will the other admins depending on your attitude.

@Fan2022

Do you mean the usage of abilities that raise one's prowess to that of a higher level? If yes then yeah, anyone who used such an ability in tandem with UnK would effectively gain a power from two level above theirs.

However, only Finn has been shown to possess an ability that currently boosts his overall ability above his level.

Also, don't believe Drake's claim of Finn's might. While there is evidence that Finn can gain the might of a Level 7 with Hell Finegas, there is nothing that says or implies his power with it is equal to that of a high Level 7. That he made it up.

@Rigel31415

You have come to the conclusion that Ais would more likely defeat Bete than he would defeat her based on a tweet that can be interpreted in various ways.

Let's analyze it, the first thing is that Omori says that Ais is much stronger than Tiona, Tione and Bete in terms of monsters, but comments that this great superiority does not apply in interpersonal combat, so Ais can lose against them at times.

From the above, we can conclude that Bete, Tiona and Tione are much better than Ais as duelists because if they can defeat her from time to time despite their huge inferiority in status (Ais has Ariel's boost) it's because their prowess is far superior to Ais's so much as to make up for their disadvantage due to Ariel.

So far everything is very clear, the ambiguity comes from his next post, namely:

"If the moonlight conditions are met and the magic is released, Bete is probably stronger at this time."

There is a semantic problem here because "to be stronger" can refer to different things. Your interpretation that "being stronger" means that Ais, using all of her power and prowess, could be better than Bete, using Hati and Úlfheðinn is valid.

But the other possible interpretation is that "being stronger" doesn't refer to their dexterities at all but to their net powers, I mean, Ais's net power is the sum of her base status plus Ariel's boost and Bete's is the sum of his base status plus the boosts from Hati and Úlfheðinn, so what Omori would be saying here is that Bete gets a status equal to or higher than Ais, i.e. this reply to the first tweet (also written by Omori) he compared their resulting statuses, not their dexterities.

If we take the second option, then when Bete uses Hati and Úlfheðinn, he would most likely defeat Ais because they would have the same status and Bete is a much better warrior as already concluded.

Based on all this argumentation, it cannot be concluded that Hedin and Hogni would defeat Bete when he uses both of his boosts just because Ais can't defeat them, as Bete would also be a level 6 high like Hogni and Hedin and all of them have more prowess than Ais, but there is no ability scale that indicates who is better than who among them.

However, I am not saying categorically that Bete could defeat Hedin, this is all under the assumption that Hati and Úlfheðinn together give the biggest boost of all level 6s, if not or even worse if Hedin has any magic or skill which also gives him a big boost, Bete's expectations will be in sharp decline.

In conclusion, whether Bete can defeat Hedin is uncertain and requires favorable speculation for him, but my point is that that tweet doesn't conclude this topic at all as you suggest.

Postscript: Sometimes you use Omori's previous actions to validate your ideas regarding a topic, I'll do that now. Omori made it absolutely clear that Ottar is the undisputed strongest, in the same way that he made it absolutely clear that Mia was stronger than any of the Loki family a few years ago when Ais first met her. So if we take into account these 2 precedents where Omori had no problem pointing out the superiority of Freya's members over Loki's, why would he have them now to point out the absolute superiority of Hedin and Hogni over Bete and company and he hasn't done it? will it be because he has not been decided?

You have come to the conclusion that Ais would more likely defeat Bete than he would defeat her based on a tweet that can be interpreted in various ways.

No, I didn't. You can in fact check my commnets.

"if even then she can stand up to Bete so could Hedin."

"It would be difficult, but there is nothing to believe it would be impossible for Ais to win."

"So as long as either Ais or Hedin could burn out all his resistance before he became too strong for them to handle they would be victorious."

I don't think Ais would most likely still be stronger than Bete. My point is that since Oomori didn't say it with certainity Bete could either be just a match for Ais or stronger than her. But the fact that Oomori said "probably" would suggest that even in the latter case Bete's superiority wouldn't be too much.

Let's analyze it

What Oomori said is that they could possibly reverse a fight against her, but she would still be the one at advantage.

We had once a discussion involving this tweet in my message wall. To quote one of AP24's comments about it:

"The tweet says Tiona, Tione and Bete could make a reversal against Ais in a pure duel. The kanji word for “reversal” used in the sentence tells us that Ais would be dominating the fight but it’s still possible for Tiona and the others to win at the end."

So far everything is very clear, the ambiguity comes from his next post, namely:

In his previous tweet Oomori was clearly refering to the sum of both technique and their abilities. There is no reason to believe he changed the criteria he was talking about. If he had done so he would have said so.

Just to be clear, I am not saying it would be an easy win for Hedin. Just that if anything evidence suggests ultimately he would win.

Mia was stronger than any of the Loki family a few years ago when Ais first met her.

That was because she was Level 6, while the Loki executives were still Level 5s back then.

if we take into account these 2 precedents... why would he have them now to point out the absolute superiority of Hedin and Hogni over Bete and company and he hasn't done it?

Unlike in this case, in both instances that you mention the superiority came from their higher level. So it is different.

@Rigel31415

Quote from the LN:...

Maybe you should go and check Bete character page again. Hati isnt only getting stronger by eating magic it as well gets stronger by bete taking damage. Bete was bombarded with magic attack when he was chanting. After he was done and incirated the ones who attacked him he started absorbing the magic from the second blast of magic attacks the wound probably that opened where most likely his magic damaging him then anything else plus that he wasnt fully healed because before this fight he was injuried with cursed weapons.

Taking on someone from the same level is way easier than taking on someone from a higher one....

What does that change? Bete easily trashed a high lvl 6 Phyrne around where Aiz had problems with a lvl 5 Revis (Aiz was lvl 5 as well) with her Ariel. Aiz completly being on par and easily clapping Revis the next fight (in the mission with the Hermes Familia) wouldnt make sense If Revis where to be lvl 6. So yes Bete wastly outclasses Aiz and that only with his Beastification add Hati on top and she is trash in front of him.

Bell had a lower Strength...

Werent your own words that something with Plot armor cant be used for this. Bell had Plot Armor against Hyakinthos and there is no denying that. If Bell didnt knock him out in that punch he would be defeated or even would have died because Hyakinthos didnt give a damn about Apollos orders.

As for your attitude,...

And not being offended by every little thing someone writes seems something that is beyond your capabilities. Just because I am not 100% doesnt mean I am insulting we are in the goddamn Internet for gods sake. If you cant take somehting like this then just stop arguing with people.

Rigel always interprets everything in his own way. some events are canon for him, while others are plot armor. here, he picks on the word "probably" when apparently Omori just didn't want to give a clear answer because of the ais fans or to keep the intrigue going. and given what we are shown in LN, Betе has an advantage in status, experience and combat IQ, even without the use of the moon or Hati. in the best case, which can be Ariel, ais becomes high lvl 6, getting a boost of about 1000 to all stats, and even so, in pure mathematics, she only becomes approximately equal to the base Bete. not to mention no one said that Ariel's buff is over 500.

@Drake Atlas

the wound probably that opened where most likely his magic damaging him

Except that the narration outright states that he is indeed receiving new wounds, which come from the attacks. It is even in the very quote I put to you.

"As with every new wound opening on the wolf’s body from the magic

salvo, the flames encapsulating his limbs grew in strength."

where Aiz had problems with a lvl 5 Revis

Never was it said that Revis was Level 5. That two people are from the same level doesn't mean they are complete equals. Some are gonna be stronger, others faster and so on. That Revis was weaker than a Level 6 Ais doesn't mean she wasn't a Level 6.

Bell had Plot Armor against Hyakinthos and there is no denying that.

If you don't want to accept that then what about Revis? She was also sent flying several meters by Gareth with a single punch in SO10.

@IkariSon

Omori just didn't want to give a clear answer because of the ais fans or to keep the intrigue going.

Oomori has never had a problem being direct when he makes statements.

Betе has an advantage in status, experience and combat IQ

Status? Most likely, given their status sheets as Level 5s.

Experience? Well, if he has a chance of defeating Ais while normal then maybe.

Overall prowess? No he doesn't. Bete himself has recognized her as stronger than himself. Ottar also pointed out Ais as outstanding among her generation. And even the author pointed out said superiority.

You simply let your Ais hate overtake your reasoning, refusing to acknowledge that she isn't the mediocre fighter you believe her to be. Just like the discussion in my wall about this very same tweet.

no one said that Ariel's buff is over 500.

Neither did anyone ever said so about Hati. Or bestification. You are completely making up how strong are the boosts of each ability in relation to each other, when there is nothing to back up such claims.

Or how even with Ariel Ais can only hope to match Bete while he is normal, when there is nothing that suggests such a thing.

@Rigel31415

to my understanding magic is also a basics ability isn't bete completely missing magic?

how do one say he's overall better when he's missing on of the basic abilities!

It was clear Ikari was talking about physical prowess, which is affected by every stat besides Magic. But yeah, if you count them all Ais clearly wins by a large margin.

yeah he was only talking about strength.. but if you're adding up stats and come with the results i feel like you should also add magic to it .. especially for a person like ais who fights with magic all the time.

also i don't think anyone can argue magic won't make a difference in battles ..

but i guess you can reverse argue (i don't know if thats a thing i made that up .lol) like, say even without magic bete is on par with ais.