>I don't see how Allen is weaker than Hedin and Hogni.

in volume 18, Hedin himself said that Allen has become weaker than him, because he no longer needs to protect his sister, and now he regrets that he gave him the position of vice-captain. that is, Allen was stronger only before. as for Hogni, he was able to fight Allen in doubly bad shape. a healthy Hogni wins without a doubt.

>By the way, do you forget Ais?

there is no one here that she can defeat. I have strong doubts about Bell as they say that he lost to Tiona even with Haruhime, but until I personally verify this, I will not take it into account

>P/s: if we treat the Gulliver brothers as one then I would put them at no 2.

despite being the weakest of Freya's elite

>Hedin to me is Riveria who's slightly stronger in melee.

his melee experience is much greater and his stats are much greater. hence, he is much stronger.

>His specialty isn't 1v1 duels.

his magical attacks are extremely powerful simply because of the stats, skills, and the mage's DA. a hit means a lot of damage, and even a miss means an extra enemy move that Hedin can use to his advantage. it is extremely difficult to dodge physical and magical attacks at the same time. Hedin's specialty is not dueling, but he just spams everyone below him with lightning bolts.

>He left Ais out because he hates her.

lie

>He'd probably justify it by quoting Oomori saying she's not as good against people as she is against monsters

this was only an extra confirmation, but according to the light novel, this was already crystal clear.

>Oomori followed that by saying she'd still beat all the other Loki Familia execs (or at least Tiona and Bete, who he has on this list).

just because she can dominate the bases with wind doesn't mean she'll win the fight. he himself said that they could reverse things around, and labeled Bete with the moon and Hati as stronger. and since Omori didn't specify what chances they have of turning the fight around, I'm just relying on my opinion, which is that Bete and Tiona are guaranteed to win. Tione is doubtful.

>She might be better than level 6 rookies like Ryuu, Bete, Tiona and Tione

not exactly

>Ais fought Allen and the Gullivers to a standstill

their goal was to keep her in place, and they did. no more, no less.

>Allen calling her a monster.

thinking she is level 5

>Oomori also states she's the finest sword wielder in the city.

when Ais herself says that Ottar is far superior to her in swordsmanship. you're confusing Omori's words with those of an unreliable narrator

>Finn has Hell Finnegas, automatically #2 because of that.

the difference in levels gives an advantage, but we have been shown many times that lower levels are still able to fight. stats, experience, technique, skills, magic can close the gap.

>And like OP, you are seriously underestimating Loki Familia.

FF is a pvp oriented family and its members have higher stats than LF. there is nothing surprising in the fact that they are stronger. at the beginning of volume 18, a conversation between Hedin and Finn pretty much confirms that Freya Familia > Loki Familia. it's time to come to terms with this fact

>Finn has Hell Finnegas, automatically #2 because of that.

the difference in levels gives an advantage, but we have been shown many times that lower levels are still able to fight. stats, experience, technique, skills, magic can close the gap.

>And like OP, you are seriously underestimating Loki Familia.

FF is a pvp oriented family and its members have higher stats than LF. there is nothing surprising in the fact that they are stronger. at the beginning of volume 18, a conversation between Hedin and Finn pretty much confirms that Freya Familia > Loki Familia. it's time to come to terms with this fact

>You've seen Gareth's status, right? It's easily on par with Hogni and Hedin's if not better

compare with Hedin.

strength - Gareth 375

endurance - Gareth 585

dexterity - Hedin 335

agility - Hedin 248

magic - Hedin 826, although given that Gareth's magic power is independent of his magic stat, it's 943

total - Hedin 449

compare with Hogni

strength - Gareth 28 (lol)

endurance - Gareth 468

dexterity - Hogni 338

agility - Hogni 398

magic - Hogni 599 but actually 716

total - Hogni 839

he is stronger than Hedin and his lightning bolts won't do much damage to him, but agility and dexterity are counter to strength. Gareth cannot land a direct hit and loses in an exchange of blows, so defeat

Gareth is NOT even stronger than Hogni, but he also has lower dexterity and agility, nothing to discuss here.

>and that's before his skills.

Hogni has 1 more skill and Hedin has 2 more skills. not to mention the magic

>Stats are pretty much irrelevant as long as we talk about people on the same level.

no more than 200-300 points of Argana and Bache, which they received at level 6, became enough advantage to make a difference and be clearly felt. it's not hard to guess that over 500 points would mean a big gap. not to mention that you yourself know that stats can surpass the level because Lefiya exists. Thus, there is nothing surprising in the fact that the difference between low lvl 6 and high lvl 6 will be no less, if not more, than the difference between high lvl 5 and low lvl 6.

>Example of it is how Gareth can roughly keep up with Finn in terms of speed

only Riveria is said to "keep up" with Finn's speed, not Gareth's. and this is a rather broad concept, since we know that an adventurer is able to keep up with the movements of another even with a difference in levels. but there is a reverse example, which I have already mentioned a thousand times: Gareth was several times stronger than Finn using Hell Finegas, punching through the roots of the half-spirit, which Finn could barely scratch when paired with Bete.

although I don't agree that it's not a "big deal", yes, tactics, technique and experience will often be more important. It's not that Freya's family lacks any of that compared to Loki's, but they also have the addition of stats. it means an advantage

also: "Dormul was losing his ability to keep up with Bell with each passing moment. Every swing hit nothing but empty air, and the boy was taking advantage of even more openings for counterattacks.

The white rabbit’s hit-and-run tactics. Dormul’s

frustrated howls as he swayed to and fro.

Bell’s Agility—his speed was on a different level."

@Stracher12

For people of the same level and without other boosts, yes.

Gareth also has Fist Strike and Crush, DAs that even if we don't know their effects it pretty much sounds like they boost his attack power. The latter is also at rank E. Plus, there is also Gareth's skill, which boost his Strength by a large amount. Of course Gareth's high Strength stat helps, but it is clear that his insane strength is largely due to his other abilities that further boost it.

his skill at best makes him low lvl 7, but Finn is with Hell Finegas too. as for DA, you yourself understand that it does not affect enough to allow Gareth to be stronger than Finn by 5 times. so stats were decisive

@IkariSon Magic against Gareth is useless, not even Welf's magic swords that are as strong as Riveria's magic could affect him, so whatever magic Hedin or Hogni have will be useless against him.

Hogni vastly surpasses him in dexterity and speed, but Gareth in strength and endurance considering his abilities, so Hogni being able to beat Gareth in hand-to-hand combat is possible, although the opposite is equally possible, how would we know? You say that you are not a Freya fan but those assumptions that you always make in favor of Freya contradict your words.