@Leinad91

The juggernaut was just a defense mechanism designed to eliminate those responsible for causing an injury to the dungeon itself. So you really can't call it an "evil" monster or any such thing.

It's been given a second chance as a xenos and is no longer bound to those rules. So to simply kill it would be kind of cruel.

I would what conditions are required for Monster to become Xenos.

The problem lies that if most turn into Xenos the city will not exist because is necessary for mortals and monster to remain enemies.

@Emiya4578

The prerequisites to creating xenos are "death" and "longing" in order to actually create xenos. The dungeon attempted this with the colosseum but failed because it could not succeed in creating the "longing" requirement.

The "longing" requirement can be achieved in a fight between an adventurer and a monster, but it depends on what happens during the fight, and even then, it isn't always guaranteed, but this is how xenos started to come to be in the first place. This is why xenos are so few in number.

The first xenos appeared 30 years ago, which would have been at the end of the Zeus familia and Hera familia era before the OEBD fight, and they were the ones who discovered the xenos first.

My take on this is that evolution is taking its course when it comes to the monsters created by the dungeon. I wonder if that every time a monster is killed it is reborn, but it's a little more evolved and eventually once a threshold is reached and once that particular monster dies again, then the monster "longs" to either live again (perhaps some if not all the other xenos) or face that adventurer (Asterius wanting a rematch with Bell or the Juggernaut wanting to kill him) and is eventually reborn into a xenos. This could explain why xenos have appeared most recently because this process must take thousands of years to achieve.

IIRC, Wiene described having vague memories, but what she was really describing was her memories as a monster before she was killed, most likely by an adventurer under conditions that would have resulted in her "longing" to live again, and thus she was reborn as a xenos.

@Leinad91

There would be no justice in killing it for something it did in it previous life as the dungeons pest control. By that logic all xenos deserve to be wiped out because literally all of them were killers in there previous lives before becoming xenos. That just what a monster is.

A little correction, it’s unknown when the First Xenos was born exactly but it was sometime before the Colosseum was created 30 years ago.

Lyd, Gros and Ray were mentioned as high Lv5 in the SS, so the Juggernaut-Peluda should be Lv6.

The Lamia Xenos, Laura, seems to be one of their high-ranking members since when Bell arrived at the Colosseum he asked if Laura and the others were there too since the Xenos would have needed enough strength to go to the Deep Floors and Laura is one of the Xenos entrusted with keeping the Juggernaut-Peluda sealed.

@Efficient-430 , the juggernaut freed himself from the control of the dungeon when he went to the 37th floor expressly to kill Bell, that was his wish and the desire that allowed him to revive as xenos is the same, so it's not about condemning the monster for his previous life but in the event that he remains the same, a serial killer who expressly wants to kill Bell and endangers his family since he is presumably level 6.

If Juggernaut-peluda had a renewed attitude, things would be different, but Bell's holiness of always wanting to save everyone no matter how bad they are, regardless of whether they want to kill him directly annoys me, it seems to me that it is an approach of the heroism more similar to sainthood. I like more the approach of the Astraea family that although they were kind they could be violent because they recognized evil and how it is handled.

But more than that, what I would not like is for Bell to develop the ability to turn the baddest into his friends, like Goku or Naruto did, that is something very cliche and Bell is already a very cliche character as to also add this "ability".

@Citrus Tachibana Except we got a rather lengthy look into the Juggernaut's psyche. No, it wasn't just "following orders". It genuinely enjoyed killing, in the same vein as the Moss Huge did. It even disobeyed the Dungeon's orders just to keep pursuing its preferred target, so you can't call it "just a defense mechanism" when it literally displayed free will.

@ThatRabidPotato

If anything, the Moss Huge had more personality than the Juggernaut and was just "nasty" about its enjoyment of murder and torment, but the Juggernaut just outright killed and devoured the adventurers without really displaying these traits. It wasn't until the final round with Bell, that the Juggernaut started to display more personality traits, despite this, it still prioritized killing Bell for the dungeon as well as its for own desire.

The Juggernaut's desire to kill Bell, only to fail in its mission must've created the requirements necessary for the "longing" effect to take place and was thus reborn as a xenos.

I think Hestia Familia or at least Bell had explored the 28th-36th floors once between the expedition and Orario Stories last chapter cause I doubt the first time Bell saw those floors would happen offscreen in a side story volume. It would be better if it happened at the same time those floors were first revealed to us readers.

The new side story takes place sometime after Vol 19 so at or near the beginning of Vol 19 we might see Hestia Familia exploring those floors. Seems fitting because they probably have to do another expedition soon after the war game. It would serve to reintroduce Hestia Familia and their closest allies now that they have a new member and very high reputation and are much stronger.

Seriously, why didn't they just give us DM19 first before this Orario Stories?

The current Hestia Familia can reach floor 28, which is a safe point iirc. After that, probably only Bell and Ryuu can go deeper while the rest stay back on floor 28. If the entire Hestia Familia wants to go further, Haruhime will need to level boost the level 2s or the weak members just follow but leave most of the fighting to Bell and Ryuu. Who knows, maybe Ryuu's Astraea Record has buff magic or Astraea Varmas has a buff effect on teammates.