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Thank you very much for answering, I assumed they were referring to that, it is that they did not clarify it very well in that forum hahaha.
I read that on a forum and had doubts as to whether it is true or not.
<p>What use would an empty shell be for him? Bell is what he is thanks to Ais and her friends, do you think he would be the same if Freya took him away from that? On the contrary, he would lose all interest in him.
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<p>It's that I've always believed that the mainstay of the series, and of Bell as such, has been Ais.But recently I see many people saying that Bell will ends up with Ryuu because he is more popular than Ais, what do you think?
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<div class="quote"><i>Ramonitopam035 wrote:
Ryuu moments with Bell is hard to replace, I suspect he already has feelings for her </i></div>
<p>I doubt it, even in volume 14 his hope for survival was to see Ais smile again. </p>
Ryuu moments with Bell is hard to replace, I suspect he already has feelings for her </i></div>
<p>I doubt it, even in volume 14 his hope for survival was to see Ais smile again. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Angelo Gabrini wrote:
I thought Spanish fan translators would translate directly from Japanese instead of English <p>Well anyway, I'll answer your question like you asked if you don't mind sort of spoilers: </p><p>Bell and the Hestia Familia don't indirectly help the Loki Familia and the others, they're pretty much the main thing which annoyed me and plenty of other people </p><p>At the end of volume 14, Bell has his arm repaired and put in a supporter. However, the events of SO12 caused him to strain it, which leads to his cast in volume 15 </p> </i></div>
<p>No, they usually wait for the Yenpress translations, although this time they have been a bit annoyed by the delay regarding volume 15, so they decided to translate directly from Japanese, it is rare, but they already translated the stories of the present, they just lack the chapters where the characters remember the past.
And thanks for answering, I suffered a severe lapse regarding Bell's arm, you're right, can it be said then that volume 12 of SO develops after the epilogue where Ryuu runs away from Bell while she is blushing ?, so I would have more sense, is that it puzzled me to see Bell plastered in volume 15 out of nowhere hahaha.
And yes, it seems to me that many people also got upset in the Spanish community for the same reason, it seems that they did not like that the Hestia family had so much prominence in SO. </p>
I thought Spanish fan translators would translate directly from Japanese instead of English <p>Well anyway, I'll answer your question like you asked if you don't mind sort of spoilers: </p><p>Bell and the Hestia Familia don't indirectly help the Loki Familia and the others, they're pretty much the main thing which annoyed me and plenty of other people </p><p>At the end of volume 14, Bell has his arm repaired and put in a supporter. However, the events of SO12 caused him to strain it, which leads to his cast in volume 15 </p> </i></div>
<p>No, they usually wait for the Yenpress translations, although this time they have been a bit annoyed by the delay regarding volume 15, so they decided to translate directly from Japanese, it is rare, but they already translated the stories of the present, they just lack the chapters where the characters remember the past.
And thanks for answering, I suffered a severe lapse regarding Bell's arm, you're right, can it be said then that volume 12 of SO develops after the epilogue where Ryuu runs away from Bell while she is blushing ?, so I would have more sense, is that it puzzled me to see Bell plastered in volume 15 out of nowhere hahaha.
And yes, it seems to me that many people also got upset in the Spanish community for the same reason, it seems that they did not like that the Hestia family had so much prominence in SO. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Angelo Gabrini wrote:
Yen Press released SO12 on July 21, are you talking about a Spanish translation?</i></div>
<p>Yes, unfortunately it is not licensed in Spanish, so the translation will take a long time :,c </p>
Yen Press released SO12 on July 21, are you talking about a Spanish translation?</i></div>
<p>Yes, unfortunately it is not licensed in Spanish, so the translation will take a long time :,c </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Angelo Gabrini escribió:
¿Por qué haces preguntas sobre un volumen que no has leído y planeas leer?</i></div>
<p>Because there is no translation yet, and the spoilers left me very confused :,c </p>
¿Por qué haces preguntas sobre un volumen que no has leído y planeas leer?</i></div>
<p>Because there is no translation yet, and the spoilers left me very confused :,c </p>
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<p>I'll be honest, I finished of read the volume 11 SO, from 12 I have only read spoilers, I see that they talk about Bell indirectly helping the Loki family, but they say that this happens between volume 14 and 15 of the original series, so how does it happen this ?, if at the end of volume 14 Bell had his arm in bad condition, so much so that in volume 15 we saw him with his arm "in a cast" or something like that, I don't remember correctly, was it before this? he help from the dungeon? Or is it some confusion in the summaries?
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<div class="quote"><i>Witmsatfm wrote:
Sorry I didn't know the Spanish edition was out already. She says in Japanese それじゃあ. Might sound more or less natural in different languages, I don't know, translations of certain words can be word sometimes. It sounds pretty accurate at least by that part you mentioned. I thought it seemed natural though. Really didn't seem like a natural time or place to start up a conversation and Bell didn't really say what he was thinking either. Ais was currently dealing with her own emotions with her family, so I wouldn't describe Ais as cold or uncaring towards Bell. You could argue that the author might of just thrown that scene in there real quick as a way to tease or excite the readers for future volumes as well.</i></div>
<p>It is not licensed yet, but there are independent people who translate it, what you would call illegal. You are right, it is probably a matter of language, in Spanish that is not the friendliest way to say goodbye, perhaps the meaning was lost in the translation. And you're right, I had not realized, a cemetery is not the ideal place to talk to someone, perhaps she wanted a little privacy. And taking into account the summary of volume 16, that may be the case, causing expectations in the reader, hopefully the relationship of both grows a little more in the following arc :3 </p>
Sorry I didn't know the Spanish edition was out already. She says in Japanese それじゃあ. Might sound more or less natural in different languages, I don't know, translations of certain words can be word sometimes. It sounds pretty accurate at least by that part you mentioned. I thought it seemed natural though. Really didn't seem like a natural time or place to start up a conversation and Bell didn't really say what he was thinking either. Ais was currently dealing with her own emotions with her family, so I wouldn't describe Ais as cold or uncaring towards Bell. You could argue that the author might of just thrown that scene in there real quick as a way to tease or excite the readers for future volumes as well.</i></div>
<p>It is not licensed yet, but there are independent people who translate it, what you would call illegal. You are right, it is probably a matter of language, in Spanish that is not the friendliest way to say goodbye, perhaps the meaning was lost in the translation. And you're right, I had not realized, a cemetery is not the ideal place to talk to someone, perhaps she wanted a little privacy. And taking into account the summary of volume 16, that may be the case, causing expectations in the reader, hopefully the relationship of both grows a little more in the following arc :3 </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Quote:<div class="quote">Gumballjeff wrote:
The thing is that in the epilogue of volume 15, when Bell and Ais meet in the cemetery leaving the flowers, their conversation was so short and cold that I felt bad, I have always liked BellxAis, but this hurt me a lot, Why was Ais like this with Bell? Is her relationship wrong?
And something else, what do you think will happen between Bell and Ais in the next volume? I read that Ais will be involved, and that worries me ?
Also, will Bell find out the truth about Ais's father or will he think it's a coincidence?</i></div>
Besides this takes place after Sword Oratoria Volume 12. Where Ais and Bell have a beautiful moment. Where she finds him sleeping against a wall. She sits down next to him and thanks him for his help in defeating Revis and stopping Enyo's evil plan. The Black Flame was going to consume her. Until she heard his Argonaut Grand Bell. It pushed backed the Black Flame. She recalls all of her most precious memories she shared with Bell. I assume it's them meeting for the first time, the first lap pillow she gave him, the apology, their training sessions, their little moment on the 18th Floor, their dance and him asking her to train him again after the Xenos arc. Then his head fell on her shoulderand then she put her head over his. She thanked him again and told she heard his voice and she fell asleep with him. There is a fan art of this and it's beautiful. What happened in DanMachi Volume 15 was that Ais was grieving her father. </div> <p>I had no idea of those events, it sounds amazing, I should pay more attention to sword oratoria, thanks for telling me that, temporarily between which volumes does that volume 12 occur? </p>
The thing is that in the epilogue of volume 15, when Bell and Ais meet in the cemetery leaving the flowers, their conversation was so short and cold that I felt bad, I have always liked BellxAis, but this hurt me a lot, Why was Ais like this with Bell? Is her relationship wrong?
And something else, what do you think will happen between Bell and Ais in the next volume? I read that Ais will be involved, and that worries me ?
Also, will Bell find out the truth about Ais's father or will he think it's a coincidence?</i></div>
Besides this takes place after Sword Oratoria Volume 12. Where Ais and Bell have a beautiful moment. Where she finds him sleeping against a wall. She sits down next to him and thanks him for his help in defeating Revis and stopping Enyo's evil plan. The Black Flame was going to consume her. Until she heard his Argonaut Grand Bell. It pushed backed the Black Flame. She recalls all of her most precious memories she shared with Bell. I assume it's them meeting for the first time, the first lap pillow she gave him, the apology, their training sessions, their little moment on the 18th Floor, their dance and him asking her to train him again after the Xenos arc. Then his head fell on her shoulderand then she put her head over his. She thanked him again and told she heard his voice and she fell asleep with him. There is a fan art of this and it's beautiful. What happened in DanMachi Volume 15 was that Ais was grieving her father. </div> <p>I had no idea of those events, it sounds amazing, I should pay more attention to sword oratoria, thanks for telling me that, temporarily between which volumes does that volume 12 occur? </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>ZerothXadron wrote:
Also note that the Story of Bell and Aiz in the cemetery was already released in December 23, 2015 in the Danmachi BD volume 7 as a special story. It was just copied and pasted into volume 15. So technically the event didn't happen after the whole Bell and Aiz fight in volume 11. But then again since the author added it in it might just be canon that it does occur after their fight. <p>To actually figure out the dynamic of their relationship now we'd probably have to wait and see if their's any awkward tension. The whole cemetery scene doesn't really count towards how their relationship dynamic is now since it was really just placed their to sow the seeds for Bell getting curious about Aiz's past/connection to Albert. </p> </i></div>
<p>I had no idea about that, maybe I should take a look at the SS, and with the other you're right, maybe that's a way for the author to start the true development of the relationship between Bell and Ais, hope he can do it of the best way possible. </p>
Also note that the Story of Bell and Aiz in the cemetery was already released in December 23, 2015 in the Danmachi BD volume 7 as a special story. It was just copied and pasted into volume 15. So technically the event didn't happen after the whole Bell and Aiz fight in volume 11. But then again since the author added it in it might just be canon that it does occur after their fight. <p>To actually figure out the dynamic of their relationship now we'd probably have to wait and see if their's any awkward tension. The whole cemetery scene doesn't really count towards how their relationship dynamic is now since it was really just placed their to sow the seeds for Bell getting curious about Aiz's past/connection to Albert. </p> </i></div>
<p>I had no idea about that, maybe I should take a look at the SS, and with the other you're right, maybe that's a way for the author to start the true development of the relationship between Bell and Ais, hope he can do it of the best way possible. </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Gozulolz wrote:
I think it was only a chance meeting in a cemetery, it's not that the relationship of bell x Aiz is bad, but it really was not the right moral moment to discuss (some will say if but good writing is there and we will have to sum it up) <p>Let's say that it pisses me off as the only moment when Bell and Aiz are solo. Nothing happens (even if I think there is some wink during this short meeting). I think Bell x Aiz will be a development. very slow, it's a way for the author to save time, it gets boring, annoying, and I think the author is still thinking about how and when to introduce the Aiz arc, let's still expect some boring encounters like those here. </p><p>That said I think that as long as Freeya is still alive, as long as Hestia and lili continue to block Bell, as long as Bell has not reached a certain level (6/7 at least) until they have no expeditions / business / quests / arc in common nothing will happen between them. </p><p>I hope the author has good reasons to keep us waiting. </p> </i></div>
<p>Yes, you are right, looking at it from that part it would not make much sense to talk about a reunion in a cemetery, it is not the best place. That also bothers me, the author is taking too long to develop the relationship between Bell and Ais, but on the one hand I have hope with Bell relating Albert's grave to being part of the Ais's family, maybe from volume 16 the development I have been waiting for for more than 15 volumes will begin, hopefully the author will do it in the best possible way: ') </p>
I think it was only a chance meeting in a cemetery, it's not that the relationship of bell x Aiz is bad, but it really was not the right moral moment to discuss (some will say if but good writing is there and we will have to sum it up) <p>Let's say that it pisses me off as the only moment when Bell and Aiz are solo. Nothing happens (even if I think there is some wink during this short meeting). I think Bell x Aiz will be a development. very slow, it's a way for the author to save time, it gets boring, annoying, and I think the author is still thinking about how and when to introduce the Aiz arc, let's still expect some boring encounters like those here. </p><p>That said I think that as long as Freeya is still alive, as long as Hestia and lili continue to block Bell, as long as Bell has not reached a certain level (6/7 at least) until they have no expeditions / business / quests / arc in common nothing will happen between them. </p><p>I hope the author has good reasons to keep us waiting. </p> </i></div>
<p>Yes, you are right, looking at it from that part it would not make much sense to talk about a reunion in a cemetery, it is not the best place. That also bothers me, the author is taking too long to develop the relationship between Bell and Ais, but on the one hand I have hope with Bell relating Albert's grave to being part of the Ais's family, maybe from volume 16 the development I have been waiting for for more than 15 volumes will begin, hopefully the author will do it in the best possible way: ') </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Witmsatfm wrote:
It really wasn't. Bell saw Aiz in front of a gravestone with her father's name on it and noticed that she was crying beforehand. When Aiz saw Bell she asked him if he was visiting someone's grave as well and he said yes and then she said a quick word of farwells and left. <p>Try to wait until you read the scene yourself before looking too much into it from a quick summary of the scene. She might of just wanted her own privacy and figured he did as well or something. It was in no way a cold or unatural scene. </p> </i></div>
<p>I read that epilogue, but in Spanish, since I'm not Anglo-Saxon, I don't know if it was a translator's mistake or my misunderstanding, I remember what you mention, but it was a very fast scene for me, it was just over half a page, and ends with "So, see ya", wasn't that the first time they had seen each other since Bell returned from the deep floors and Ais from the Loki family expedition in the artificial maze? Or was there an encounter before ? I think not, since Bell looks sad in volume 15 when they are in the bar of abundance with the Hestia family, Takemikazuchi and Miach, and all for not being able to see Ais again :,c </p>
It really wasn't. Bell saw Aiz in front of a gravestone with her father's name on it and noticed that she was crying beforehand. When Aiz saw Bell she asked him if he was visiting someone's grave as well and he said yes and then she said a quick word of farwells and left. <p>Try to wait until you read the scene yourself before looking too much into it from a quick summary of the scene. She might of just wanted her own privacy and figured he did as well or something. It was in no way a cold or unatural scene. </p> </i></div>
<p>I read that epilogue, but in Spanish, since I'm not Anglo-Saxon, I don't know if it was a translator's mistake or my misunderstanding, I remember what you mention, but it was a very fast scene for me, it was just over half a page, and ends with "So, see ya", wasn't that the first time they had seen each other since Bell returned from the deep floors and Ais from the Loki family expedition in the artificial maze? Or was there an encounter before ? I think not, since Bell looks sad in volume 15 when they are in the bar of abundance with the Hestia family, Takemikazuchi and Miach, and all for not being able to see Ais again :,c </p>
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<p>The thing is that in the epilogue of volume 15, when Bell and Ais meet in the cemetery leaving the flowers, their conversation was so short and cold that I felt bad, I have always liked BellxAis, but this hurt me a lot, Why was Ais like this with Bell? Is her relationship wrong?
And something else, what do you think will happen between Bell and Ais in the next volume? I read that Ais will be involved, and that worries me ?
Also, will Bell find out the truth about Ais's father or will he think it's a coincidence? </p>
And something else, what do you think will happen between Bell and Ais in the next volume? I read that Ais will be involved, and that worries me ?
Also, will Bell find out the truth about Ais's father or will he think it's a coincidence? </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Rigel31415 wrote:<div class="quote">
<p>Gumballjeff wrote:
Where can I find that information?
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In Oomori’s twitter. https://twitter.com/fujinoomori/status/1273095865385787393 </div> <p>Thanks you :3 </p>
In Oomori’s twitter. https://twitter.com/fujinoomori/status/1273095865385787393 </div> <p>Thanks you :3 </p>
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<div class="quote"><i>Angelo Gabrini wrote:
Yes, he hopes to release SO13 with DM18, but it's not specified how many he intends to release</i></div>
<p>Where can I find that information? </p>
Yes, he hopes to release SO13 with DM18, but it's not specified how many he intends to release</i></div>
<p>Where can I find that information? </p>
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<p>Most likely, it is a harem ending, perhaps the SS of "5 years later" is a sign.
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