All posts by Aniran96

I ignored it cause it was the same interaction as MS11. same reason i ignored SO5.

Volume 8 for lily proposal.

Volume 5 in floor 18th.

Volume 11 regarding deadulus street incident.

SO12 when bell told finn he wants to help.

I think that is it.

I am talking about those who can afford it. if stat increase in one stat do not matter, that would apply to all stats. if that is the case, lefiya taking her magic to s would not make much of a difference from near A(797 to be exact to 960).

A bit late but if stats of previous level don't matter or matter negligent amount, then why do people bother maxing them out if they can in the first place?

Hermes famila has also reached till floor 37 so their rank should be B if their true strength is exposed correct?

Apart from being a female goddess, it will have to be a goddess of orario. did the anime shed more light on what the symbol looked like? we should be able to compare to the emblem of freya familia.

SO12 ending suggested that she regained some of her past self. however, she still needs to save her mother and destroy the dragon that killed her father. and share this with bell, all the while she will be afraid until she tells bell that once he learns, he will reject her. i think.

Its not that bell will go ahead and publicise it.

But his nature.

1. Think of it like this. imagine if bell knows and someone guesses. then they bluff in front of him. the expression he will make will be a dead giveaway.

2. Imagine if ais asks. will bell be able to refuse?

3. Imagine if someone who has worked really hard to get to like level 4 or whatever, tries to guilt trip bell. he is stupid enough to fall for that.

This is just me adding my 2 cents here despite the idea of moving this topic elsewhere

The thing is, in the end, when ais and revis clashed for the last time, until then, ais was superior but in that last attack, while revis was caught off guard, revis after exchanging blows with ais, was also sure that her attack was superior to her opponent.

Rather than being thankful for making her embrace syr, she is thankful for saving freya/syr from the emotional turmoil or whatever she was going through.

Ah yes jobber. thank you. i feel like ganesha familia is a jobber familia for oomori.

Almost forgot. there is also ganesha familia. they are a complete wasted potential. they exist to show how difficult the opponent is. pretty sure there is a term for that. don't remember what though.

Am saying it based on the fact that he used his magic to block an orb from the front. anything he blocks with his sword will still explode. maybe he could dodge. but that is why surrounding. but you have a point. hedin might have defeat him if it was that easy.

I did say she uses her magic and win. however, if ariel is strong enough, ais will not give her that chance.

Bell has seen in volume 18 that his status can reach sss category but did not ask a single question regarding it in the whole series till date.

Debt aside, hestia is too lazy to recruit new people as well. more people to intrude on her and bell's private time and all.

When i said how rest of the world tried to play catch up with orario, i meant that orario is the centre of power. any one who controls it controls the monopoly on magic stones as well as access to the dungeon. which is a good source of strength. orario itself should know that and use it when it comes to dealing with any international relations.

If that is the case, i can imagine that if other countries cannot win orario as they are now, they needed to play catch up. kali familia, for all its brutality, introduced a good way to pull it off and a big country like rakia that has absorbed many small countries in itself could afford that. no sweat. its obvious now that nothing like that is happening. otherwise no one would complain in SO13 that monster attacks on the world are increasing and stuff.

Coming back to what am hoping would be explored but also feel like it would actually not be explored.

SO13 did introduce a nice idea. orario being as strong as it is, does not have much to worry. that is not the same for the rest of the world. they can project their pain and suffering on the people of orario and hate them if that is how they want to cope with it. or use to their advantage. finn's goal is not something that can be limited to orario after all. riveria cannot just ignore the suffering of the rest of the elves in the world either.

We never hear in orario what is happening in the rest of the world. seriously, what happened to gossiping merchants trope, or travelling bards trope. even while staying in orario, the idea of orario being so strong because of the dungeon and it letting the rest of the world suffer is something that can be explored even now I believe.

My idea is that the conflicts could have developed logically but the first issue of strength is not something i think can be developed at this point. so an international conflict for supremacy of orario is out of the question honestly. it does have an impact on my second point but it also paves the way for exploring the world using the hard cap system oomori has developed while staying consistent with oomori's style of focusing on characters more and using them to drive the story.

Vana argature or however it is spelled does give a buff equivalent to a level boost. glad to see we agree.

i agree that discussion has shifted more into what beastification can do and what airiel can do.

Lets try it like this.

Airiel

As a level 5 with A in agility, ais with airiel lost to revis.

With the same status and with airiel, she won against udaeus.(side note : revis > udaeus)

Then ais with level 6 did not need to use airiel.

This would imply that airiel was not enough of a boost to be equal to 1 level.

But when she goes, rage tempest, or tempest-avenger, i think it is easily a very strong boost.

When fighting against ottar, it was said that airiel put their abilites in the same field, whatever that means.

To me, this would also mean that a level 6 ais does not need airiel to take on udaeus.

Anyone contesting this claim, please explain why you think this is wrong and not by using another example cause that would be just an example of inconsistency in airiel itself and by extension, oomori's writing. plot inconsistencies cannot be resolved logically.

The only other example we have to gauge airiels true strength without avenger is the boost provided by laurus hildr. anyone who has read the source material, if you can use the numbers to try to guess how much of a boost that was, much appreciated.

Or at least, if bell fought ottar with level boost before getting laurus, how much of a difference that made.

Regardless, airiel is a strong boost.

And if ais used it early in a fight against ryuu, considering ryuu's chant lengths, i would say ais will win. especially considering that ais can keep further strengthening the wind. but that would require her to be blood lusted.

Coming back to things, ais has the ultra rare experience card that oomori hands out to hand out victories. for that, i do not believe there is any inconsistency. yes, ais also had higher status but that does not mean xp card gets ignored.

As for ryuu, as a level 6, she has chain attack and mage abilties. hogni is more of strength kind of fighter. i do not know how ryuu, defensive barrier works so i do not know if ais without airiel can break it or not like hogni did.

Regardless, if ryuu uses agaris, it should not immediately take out ais. she is a fellow level 6. but the boost plus the explosions can overwhelm her. if ais is overwhelmed, she can still use airiel.

As for the other magic of ryuu is concerned, gokou, well, if she has succesfully casted her agaris magic, considering that it can be boosted with some spell key as well, i can imagine with her fairy skill and mage ability, so it can keep up with airiel, allowing ryu to use her concurrent casting skills to cast gokou.

As for her fight against hogni, i believe that if ryuu had surrounded hogni with her 74 lumious orbs, she might have defeated him with her magic alone. his own magic would neutralise stuff in only one direction after all. any contest to either of my claims, please present arguments

Ryuu's agility was also enough to have her recognised as a proper level 6. guess the level boost is just that much.

So ais has got the xp card which if neither side uses magic, means she wins.

Ais wins if she uses her magic in the beginning as well.

If ais does not use her magic and ryu uses hers, she wins.

Ryuu wins if she can succesfully cast agaris alvesynth I believe.

If airiel boost is strong enough, then ais wins regardless.

Personally, i feel like how different countries try to play catch up with orario would have been interesting. i can imagine countries with a more dictator style regime actually partially folowing kali familia example in the world of danmachi. but not going that extreme. a country like rakia could actually afford a method like that though.

or for that matter, with the importance of magic stones to the point where even street lamps use it, how much the dungeon seems to be needed and how if, its mystery were to be solved and hypothetically, monsters stopped spawing, where would the word technology be if the dungeon is done for.

Or for that matter, even resentment towards orario for hogging the strongest adventurers and many places in the rest of the world suffering. i feel like there is a lot of potential to be explored in exploring the way the rest of the world feels towards orario and anything they do in regards to that.