All posts by CronusKiller

So that's my point, why everyone presuming it going to be a fight? A wargame can literally be anything, nothing in stone it must be an x on x fight. Me thinks people been playing the cheap o game that has a "wargame" in it that's isn't really Canon. What would have been the point of holding a meeting prior to the first wargame and then having to randomly pick a game type, surely if there were only siege and duel they could have just had a vote. There must be many types of games possible and doing the same old one would just be a cop out. The answer "Freya upset people with brain washing" got nothing to do with it, pretty sure Freya got friends still and also familias to scared off hers to pick the other side or even cross her.

By who? And where does is say that it's going to be a repeat of hestia v apollo type wargame?

None really answered my question, where is it stated that this will be an all v Freya familiar war? Personally I would feel cheated if they did just have a war as they have done this already (apollo v hestia), there is opportunity to really mix up the wargame itself and do something unexpected, like a set of challenges, we just had olympics would be cool to have something like that, multiskilled eventing.

I would suggest you buy them all, the novels are far superior to the anime, don't get me wrong I have watched the anime a few times now and I love it and still enjoy very much, it is just the novels give you so much more, thoughts, feelings, fears, you can get immersed so much more.

I was more thinking about the end game, if the bottom floor is it, I can only see it happening with the combined force of Loki/Freya/Hestia at the least, this is based on the highest level their members can theoretically be in 4 months (if that is what time is left after novel 18) vs the presumed strength of Hera and Zeus who may or may not have reached it.

I agree that Haruhime seems to be that bandage for the level break created by Omori when he pulled the Hera/Zeus captains levels out of thin air.

The Argonaut time limit increases at each level so level 10 I was going extreme and saying 24 hours.

Ah yes, but I mean following with the constraints given to the topic, you are presuming that Freya would charm him but as one of her Familia there would be no need to charm as he would already be hers. Freya uses her charm to get what she wants/needs not what she already has. As I had said he still gets the same skills at same levels the question is with the training they can offer and the chance to reach deeper into the dungeon from the get go, how much time is lost for him not even knowing the basics of how to fight? getting lost in the dungeon? Surely starting out in a stronger Familia has advantages else why would people join other than a bigger room. Loki and Freya are not the strongest out of luck. How many level 6's in the city? how many of these belong to Loki or Freya?

Wait till Bete finds out, he may decide this is how Loki familiar training should be done to stop the lower level members being so weak, Finn, Riveria, and Gareth gonna go mental if they see him beating them 99% to death.

Is seems you feel the the "training" was some sort of torture and bad for Bell, when if you look at it and put it into a context we understand it is just military training seen here in the real world, live fire exercise, matxhing mile after mile, training every minute till you are sick, yoy break the mind and create a new way of thinking, when fighting for you life you need to work on instinct else you will die. You are aware the dungeon is dangerous? Bell has nearly.died a few times, his last outing his luck cheat helped keep him stay alive but this can only take him so far, maybe this training will give him better odds next time. Loki trains by dungeon diving after you learn the basics, they are now one of the strongest familias, Freya trains by pushing it's members to pretty much fight to the death every day, they are also one of the strongest familias and Ottar is the strongest person in the city, how because he fought to the death from level 5 to level 7 against Zeus and hera familias in PvP, this is training. So ok if AIS gonna lose her shit over Bell being trained in such way does that mean she gonna thank each and every member when she sees the improvements in his fighting and realise they have made him better? AIS knocked him out only to give him lap pillows? I think you missed the whole point of their training, Bell couldnt fight for shit, AIS trained him, each mini session finished when he was knocked out, he got a lap pillow each time as she knew it embarrassed him and thought it might make him train harder as to not get knocked out and embarrassed.

So AIS didn't knock him out repeatedly to train him day after day after day? She even got her Amazon pal to tag team the crap outta him as well? Their methods may have been brutal but that his how they train, Freyas alternative motive may have been to break his mind but that is here nor there, a god/goddess does what a god/goddess does, doubt Freya familiar knew about their goddesses alteria motive, it is not their place to ask. Pretty sure the whole point of having healers available when you train PvP is so they can go all out and if someone misses a block they have a healer to fall back on. My point is I doubt he was the first or the last person to have been healed in a near death hit whilst training, to AIS it would just be training as a soldier herself she would know this, her looking for Bell is something a friend would do, I say friend as AIS not sure her feelings for Bell and what they mean but she still worries, she knows she was brainwashed, knows it was memories of Bell they affected and therefore went looking for him. Her own training with Ottar was quite brutal as well, she had to go all out and I bet if she wasn't completely focused Ottar could have killed through her missing a block, pretty sure she had to be healed.

Bit confused why anyone would think AIS would even slightly be bothered, surely her training with Ottar pushed her to the edge, even her final fight in SO12 it mentioned that the training helped her break her limit cap allowing her to win, whilst she was there she would have seen then the way they train and it is not that it is even a big secret. It's a new way of training for Bell so would will improved his combat technique. Only thing she would be angry about is: A- being brainwashed B- Loki being brainwashed, C- Bell maybe kept against his will (I say maybe as until she speaks to him she wouldn't know). So a Freya exec in a PvP against AIS saying "hey guess what, when Bell was with us we trained him the same we train with each other and how Ottar trained with you". And AIS would be like "eh, thanks?"