All posts by Efficient-430
The cover for SO 15 is clearly in the dungeon and we know the vol 20 plot seems to be completely unrelated, yet SO 15s current description says this will be the when the main series and sword oratoria intersect
Your theory would would be fine if we didn't know how loki familia handles expeditions but we've seen them go in 2 now and they only really spit up at the start to not over crowd the upper levels which shouldn't take that long and when they get to the safe zone on the 50th where they leave all the weaker members behind.
All we have from vol 20 is ais being named in 1 chapter that doesn't tell us anything other than she'll be significant in that chapter. She could leave In the very next for all we know.
In vol 18 royman says this while talking too finn
“Even Zeus and Hera only managed to bring this little trinket back to the surface. But…if it’s Loki Familia and that famous tomboy of yours, then you might just be able to find the key.”
They're not gonna leave behind one of their strongest members when going deeper in the dungeon than ever before. Especially since royman implies ais might help in locating the ice garden somehow.
Ais technique of hitting the side of a strike to redirect it isn't a block and it's entire purpose was to avoid confronting the full force of a attack.
Again we're we're straight up told bell is in no way close to the minotaur in strength and a single hit would turn him to paste.
Your argument of "the minotaur strength stat was higher than bells but he still lost, so stats don't matter" makes 0 sense because bells method for fighting the minotaur was doing literally everything in his power to avoid confronting it's attacks directly, and the narration clearly states if he failed even once he'd die instantly.
And the only reason this was possible for a level 1 bell was because of his great agility and the minotaurs terrible agility (for a level 2).
Also Omori tweeted this is response to someone asking for vol 20 so it's confirmed it's not sword oratoria
Ever since reading SO I've always believed the OEBD wouldn't be defeated with brute strength. Obviously power will be important otherwise Omori wouldn't feel the need to create haruhime but I believe the oebd Is somehow using aria and that's how it was strong enough to no diff Zeus and hera and ais involvement will somehow take aria out of the equation making beating it with the world's current strength more manageable.
Ais seems to want to save her mother which implies she's alive and as much hype as Albert and his party are hyped up I'm just not convinced they are so much stronger than the combined efforts of Zeus and hera that they could drive it away while Zeus and hera literally got annihilated. So the dragon could have gotten a power boost from aria.
And it's not like this is a crazy concept either as all though out SO we see monster spirt hybrids in the form of demi spirits, and even more convincing the corrupted spirit that's behind most of the events of SO and is definitely gonna play a big part in the ais arc( which will obviously set up the dragons arc) is also somehow connected to aria as revis says it wanted ais because it believed she was aria.
When is ais ever said to be less skilled than tione, tiona and bete? If your reason for thinking this is ottars statements in SO 11 than all he ever says is ais is inferior to his and finns generation because they had to live though Zeus and heras reign and the dark ages which obviously doesn't include tiona, tione and bete.
He does say that ais is "excellent' and "plenty strong" compared to those in her own generation.
nothing you've said has been convincing evidence that these are anything more than typical harem bait gags.
Again nothing in volume 19 implies Omori is "reviving the ryu team" as he makes its clear bell isn't interested and wants to reject her in chapter one and since you claim to have read vol 19 I don't know why you're acting like it's some mystery why Bell isn't able to answer in those later scenes when he literally says the reason in the same scene where he wants to reject her in chapter one.
He's simply afraid to reject her because of how syr reacted. That's it. Is this just a lazy excuse to keep these dumb harem bait scenes? Yes. But that's just typical harem stuff. There's nothing suggesting these are anything more than dumb gags and omori definitely doesn't do anything to keep the ryu route alive and literally does the opposite by showing the sole reason she hasn't been rejected is syrs mental breakdown.
Not even gonna bother with your comments regarding hestia.
Omori has shown absolutely 0 intentions of changing his mind regarding ais and it's honestly insane that people are still debating this with literally only 2 major arcs left both of which being ais focused. And Omori literally said in the latest interview that the MS ending has been decided since the beginning and that was after he wrote vol 19 so now we literally have him just outright stating he hasn't changed his mind.
These things are still in the story simply because they are typical harem bait gags. That's it, and I don't really see any indication of any deeper reasoning.
Your conclusion that it's Omori is stepping back from ais using vol 19 as evidence also doesn't make sense because in vol 19 in the scene where ryu wants to join HF but bell thinks she's confessing again, bells inner thoughts make it clear he fully intends to reject her. One line even straight up says (note this is mtl)
"If the other party asks me to respond with a confession, there is only one answer I can give!"
If what your saying was true he'd leave it ambiguous.
And the Cafe scene is just another dumbass gag not ment to be taken seriously.
I mostly agree with everything you've said except the other loki executives being ais<< against people.
I haven't seen anything suggesting tiona,tione and bete are above ais against people by a significant margin and the only evidence I've seen when people make this claim is ottars statements in SO 11. But ottar explicitly clarifies that he is comparing her to his and finns generation, not every other first tier. He even straight up says that compared to her generation she's "excellent".
Not saying it's crazy to think they're probably better considering betes and to a larger extent the twins background, but unless there's a translation issue, retcon or you have some other reason for believing this I don't think it's reasonable to assume such a large gap.
The topic of the convo was level ups, it's then brought up that ottar will level up and then right after that the statement with Allen was made. If you don't like FF whatever but the context of the statement clearly points to it referring to level ups.
And in terms of how 1( I don't know why you doubt they'll tag along to the expedition to considering it was so dangerous the guild wasn't even willing to inform FF or LF it was possible until they teamed up and based on what we know about the corrupted spirit it could only be more dangerous since ZF and HF have been there. And considering the story's emphasizing team work more it seems like a obvious choice. You even claim Omori has been attempting to "justify" FF which would only further suggest he's trying to make them more suitable for this type of thing.
2(while you're skeptical about Allen and the others statement it's just outright stated ottar will level up soon and if Omori has a way to level up a max level 7 planned, doubting he can level up the others makes 0 sense.
In SO 14 finn says he has a feeling ottar is probably about to level up and that Allen and the others would "shock" the city in the near future, which is pretty clearly omori's way of showing he intends to level them up soon.
Leaving Orario is not a reasonable expectation. And them leaving Orario allowing them to fight "super enemies" makes 0 sense.
We don't really have much suggesting this will be a Eina arc. If all we knew was it would be about her sister in the education district that would be what I would consider most likely, but based on the glimpses of vol 19s plot we get in SO 13 it seems largely unrelated to Eina other then her sisters presence and even then we know the only reason Bell will spend as much time with her as he does is because of baldur. So far the most involvement I can see eina having is being the reason why Bell goes to the ED the first time and as motivation for bell accepting baldurs request but there's very little suggesting it's focused on her.
And bells parentage is established in a literal side series we have nothing suggesting it will be significant in MS other than that whole mystery with Zeus and even there i doubt It'll be as anything other than a explanation of why Zeus had him. And as for the reason it can just as easily serve no other purpose other than dramatic irony which would be fitting considering the whole plotlines ties to Greek mythology where it's pretty common.
And we have no reason to believe Eina is more or even on the same level on bells knowledge regarding the past events of heroes so I don't see how she's gonna help with the whole Albert situation especially when Bell was doing just fine on his own.
I get alot of people don't like these more minor arcs buts these expectations/possibilities just aren't realistic.
There would be no justice in killing it for something it did in it previous life as the dungeons pest control. By that logic all xenos deserve to be wiped out because literally all of them were killers in there previous lives before becoming xenos. That just what a monster is.