While that's true, it was also a special war sword. In his defence if it were a normal war sword, he'd have probably been able to beat it. They are slower, and bulky, which causes all of there attacks to be telegraphed ahead of time. Fast knife/dagger blades and parrying and armor to absorb hits (Typically) have the advantage. That being said, it was a magic war sword, and Bell had no way of knowing that until it was too late.
Angelo Gabrini wrote: That wouldn't work as Bell's theme is light armor like Albert
Also, this is a reference for you if Bell's using a heavy armor with him (from another anime)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sw8vl9MUP7w
kazuma is a weakling, Bell with level 1 in volume 1 of the novel Bell charged to Hestia and fled the Silber Back, now Bell is lv 4, the weight that the armor can suppose will not make him lose almost speed, and he defends that The armor award compensates for that minimal speed penalty.
About the weapons, it is true that bell is more skilled with the daggers but has been seen using other weapons, and in the dungeon it makes sense not to go only to daggers for the big monsters, so he can leave the daggers as the last option when the thing is complicated, to me in particular I would like Bell's final style to be:
A Dagger, a Sword (long sword or Big sword).
Never underestimate reach advantage, Bell needs to clear a huge amount of distance to get into measure with Hyakinthos.
A war sword is a modern term used to classify large long swords (large does not mean heavy), something of an inbetween to more common length long swords and great swords. Swords, like armor, don't weigh nearly as much as most people think. A war sword would weighs five to six lb. (2.26 to 2.72 kg), the point of balance would usually be around four to five inchs (10 to 13 cm) above the cross guard. What does all of that mean? Swords are fast, especially two hand swords. Any sword meant for combat was not a heavy cumbersome hunk of metal. Trying to parry any sword with a knife is a nightmare, the longer the sword the more force one has to stop or redirect; it is an absolute pain.
The Solar Flamberge was not a magic sword. I don't think there is a single example of using a magic sword as a direct combat weapon. If Bell can get inside of Hyakinthos's reach yes he has an advantage and yes that is what he did. It is not impossible but it mostly works because of plot. That's fine it doesn't change the fact that it is a good moment in a great story. It just doesn't work that way in reality.
The knives give Bell more of the underdog feel and thats what the story is going for. Besides everybody likes seeing the underdog beat the jackass bully.
Specs for the sword I'm using as reference is actually a museum reproduction small zweihander (german for two-hander, the name is often associated with great swords). It is not actually a famberge but I can't find reliable specs for an actual flamberge.
Overall length: 55" (139.7 cm)
Blade length: 41" (104 cm)
Blade width: 2.1875” (5.56 cm)
CoB: 4.5" (11.43 cm)
CoP: 25" (63.5 cm)
Weight: 5lb 7 oz. (2.47 kg)
Note: Most sword classifications and names come from modern times, mostly to help sort out all the different types of sword used through out history.
1) Unlike RPGs, where you can carry some 9.9 kg of stuff and you move at full speed, and next you add some more, and suddenly you're at 10 kg of load and suddenly become slower, real physics doesn't quite work this way. There is no threshold of weight that does not impact speed.
Especially when we're talking about armor that, at 27.2 kg, is a significant fraction of weight of Bell himself. Acceleration = muscle strength / mass.
2) Like RPGs, I expect this world to have advanced equipment meant for high-level adventurers. Loki familia's 6th level dwarf's armor probably weighs so much normal people would be unable to lift even a part of it. And it's made of special materials that make it super-tough. All to be able to remain competitive against monsters that a 6th level adventurers would fight.
Because you know, high-level adventurers are tougher than steel, but monsters can still harm them.
That's why I expect that while high-level Bell could wear a mundane or low-level armor without much impact on performance, he will probably be useless against monsters from deep in the dungeon.
Never underestimate reach advantage, Bell needs to clear a huge amount of distance to get into measure with Hyakinthos.
A war sword is a modern term used to classify large long swords (large does not mean heavy), something of an inbetween to more common length long swords and great swords. Swords, like armor, don't weigh nearly as much as most people think. A war sword would weighs five to six lb. (2.26 to 2.72 kg), the point of balance would usually be around four to five inchs (10 to 13 cm) above the cross guard. What does all of that mean? Swords are fast, especially two hand swords. Any sword meant for combat was not a heavy cumbersome hunk of metal. Trying to parry any sword with a knife is a nightmare, the longer the sword the more force one has to stop or redirect; it is an absolute pain.
While you are correct that large does not difinitely mean heavy, it absolutely means slow, and bulky. It takes more time to rebound from an attack, and they are incredibly easy to predict because of how long they are. The big benefit is the increased power brought on by more leverage. If you can dodge or block a strike and get in close, the sword is also made essentially useless... which is why many who used them also carried a smaller one handed weapon. Because the more the mass is spread out, the more force is required to make any movements with it. A simple example is to hold a flat bar about the same width, weight and length of a sword, hold it with the length wise pointing vertically and it's fairly easy, then try holding it out length wise horizontally... You'll instantly see the difference and it'll be 20x harder to hold. Swords while generally fast, historically were also bulky and cumbersome. And where they are balanced are entirely based on the purpose of the sword. A purely thrusting sword will be balanced around the hilt, to typically around 4-5 inches above the crossgaurd. Slashing and cutting swords often had much more mass toward the point of the blade and were balanced around half way down the blade. So the information you put forward is very misleading to someone less knowledgable, as you're using half truths and misrepresentation of information. (I'm not saying you are doing so intentionally to decieve other readers, simply stating your information is flawed) And wieght also varried as I have seen historical 2 handed swords weighing as much as 8-9 lbs. Also... you do realize... HISTORICALLY... Daggers were the main thing used to parry swords, Right? It's called a parrying dagger... And they were very very common place. Just google Parrying dagger and you can find many instances. Bucklers were also an option later on, but they were less parrying and more deflecting blocks generally and offered less control.
Alright , let's talk balance. A flat bar of metal will always have the point of balance at the center, and as I stated earlier is just a hunk of metal. Swords are designed and engineered. The balance of a sword would be adjusted by tapering the blade, having a fuller, and/or weighting the pummel. The only type of sword that have the point of balance at the hilt are sport fencing swords. Arming swords, long swords, and great swords always had the point of balance close to the cross guard. Very rarely we're sword weighted towards the point. There are examples in India but they were not common in most other regions. Eight to nine pound great swords did exist, that's true, but smaller great swords were more common. Most surviving giant swords are ceremonial berring sword not ment for combat and threw balance right out the door. Saber did have a great deal of variation on the point of balance.
Parrying dagger were invented in the 16th century, so we can safely say that they are not historically the main method of parrying. The only common type of historical dual wielding in combat is with weapon and shield. Parrying daggers were used almost exclusively in dueling. As an off hand weapon used with a rapier or other dueling swords. Other than use as a sidearm dagger have gone through different phases of purpose depending on the period, such as the rondel dagger for piercing joints between armor plates.
Combat, if an opponent with a knife gets inside of the reach of a sword blade there are methods of continuing to fight with the sword. Half swording, pummeling, and murder stroke all are great ways to combat an opponent inside of one's reach. Not to mention the fact that if someone has a sword there's a good chance they have armor.
172.101.23219 before going and accusing people of half truth and misinformation go and do some real research. I study swords, other midevil weapons and to a much greater degree history. I also practice and study HEMA, although not as much as I would like. I have been studying them for over fifteen years. You actually are spreading misinformation. I'm sorry if you don't like that but it is the truth. The internet can be a great source of information, but only if you meticulously check that information.
Yes Angelo, I know I'm why off topic I'll stop.
This comment will be all I will say further as to keep this from going off topic any further... I would recommend to look at this link, and read the entirety if you so choose as it is a good read and consider that your information was mixed up. Which is all I was implying, not attempting to accuse you. As you'll see I also said I didn't believe any mis/half information was done intentionally... The balance of most 2 handed swords were around, give or take about 2 inches in either direction, 12 inches above the hilt/crossgaurd. The way I understood what you were saying is that two handed swords had a balance of 4-5 inches above the cross guard... Which simply isn't true for a standard two handed sword... A standard one handed sword, had a balance of around 3-6 inches with swords made more for slashing having been closer to the 6 inch mark. It makes sense for a longer and larger sword to have a longer distance to the point of balance from the hilt. I'm also a fan of history, and sword play, and I actually have a fair little collection myself... Personally owning 2 two handed historical blades which were not the cheapest of my collection by any means which weigh in at about or a little over 6 lbs.
http://www.thearma.org/essays/2HGS.html#.Wz5mxtJKhPY
Also the comment about a bar was not meant as a 1:1 comparison to a sword, more an example to show the effects of gravity on an object covering more area. Obviously a sword is weighted to help off set some of the strains of weilding it, but gravity doesn't care about those off sets.
Perhaps we can start another forum entree to discuss further however that is a different matter... as we do seem to have similar interests and so perhaps others in the forum may as well.
Given the new "trailer" for the movie I have to say his armor does look kind of like the original pic from the game, but more a stepping stone to it rather than purely like it... His armor in the movie will be white/silver with gold trim and accents so the pic from the game looks like what'll be coming after... At least imo
we can make light armor in that color lol