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  • as the wikia state Ottar is one of the only two Level 7s in the world. and at the same time he is the only lvl 7 in Orario so the other one is outside of orario.

    We don't have much clues on who it could possibly be. but i think i have a semblance of a clue on whos famillia He is. 

    Upon lokis decent to the lower realms she thought that of making the strongest Familia but it is going to be difficult since Freya and Thor was on the lower realms way before her.Since Freya has the Ottar 

    So could it possible be Thor famillia has the other lvl 7 adventurer ? 

    Who do you think he/she is ? or what familia he/she may belong to ?

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    • Maybe Poseidon Familia or any familia that lives in one of the other two great unexplored regions of the world.

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    • Sword Oratoria vol. 8 reveals there are actually 3 Great Frontiers (one of them is The Dungeon, but there also must be 2 other deadly places). So the other level 7 might be a part of a familia raiding some other frontier (like the one monster who slain Bete's tribe came from). For some reason the main story is set in a world where Orario is the only place with strong adventurers, but in Sword Oratoria (and I think the existence of another level 7 was also mentioned there) the world is expanded and has strong outsiders like Kali Familia. I think we will se more of those strong familias not related to Orario.

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    • The second of them is Dragon Valley like you mentioned. The third is still unknown

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    • ValetVlad wrote:
      Sword Oratoria vol. 8 reveals there are actually 3 Great Frontiers (one of them is The Dungeon, but there also must be 2 other deadly places). So the other level 7 might be a part of a familia raiding some other frontier (like the one monster who slain Bete's tribe came from). For some reason the main story is set in a world where Orario is the only place with strong adventurers, but in Sword Oratoria (and I think the existence of another level 7 was also mentioned there) the world is expanded and has strong outsiders like Kali Familia. I think we will se more of those strong familias not related to Orario.

      I think they mentioned the other 2, the sea, for the large number of monsters that escaped in antiquity and the almost 1000 years before the family of Zeus and Hera closed the entrance, and the other is north of the continent, towards where was the black dragon in the age, and I remember remember that they are referred to as "unexplored regions", there may be strong monsters but in the end all come from the only dungeon in the world.

      On the other lv 7 I say that there are 3 options

      -It is in the empire (one of the 3 powers in the world)
      -It is in Altena (the city of magic wave and another of the 3 powers of the world)
      -It is in the Poseidon family touring the sea and cleaning it.

      By the way are 3 powers in the world besides Orario, are Telskyura, the empire and Altena, so we know Telskyura has at least 2 lv 6, the Empire and Altena should have something similar.

      The Empire is a warlike country like Rakia, and there are always wars, even internal wars, it's a good way to gain experience, I remember that Lunoire comes from there, and if I'm not bad it came with lv 4 being very young, so I do not It is unreasonable that someone over 50-60 years of age has lv 7, or even someone older.

      Altena is the city of Magic so it is dedicated to the investigation of magic (I suppose), Fels is from there and I achieve level 4, so a researcher who is also a fighter should rise level faster than Fels, and if it were Someone from the elven race could be several hundred years old (200-300 years old) and stay in shape thanks to their high level.

      The poseidon family is cleaning the ocean of monsters, and is constantly fighting, in fact the monsters in the sea should be much stronger than on the surface, and just 15 years ago they closed the entrance, there could be several irregulars there, it would not be rare that a lv 7 of 50 or 60 years old is there, even older.

      Finally, even though I know that this is not certain (I do not know what cannon will be) is the little we know: in the game of danmachi it is mentioned that the only adventurer capable of facing Ottar left Orario 2 years ago, his alias was the knight of knights, it is said that he went to the sea, it is not said what it was, maybe he retired, maybe he is with the family poseidon cleaning the sea, we do not know his level, but 2 years ago he was the only one to fight with Ottar on equal terms then it must be lv 6 high or lv 7.

      As I said I do not know if this will be cannon and it does not mean that the knight of knights is the other lv 7, but it is possible.

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    • Nah. Thor could have just been mentioned as the ones named after the Norse gods were sort of the same group/were neighbors in Tenkai.Loki could have only mentioned Thor and Freya because those were the only two gods she knew that went below.  Much like how Loki didn't know about Dionysius but Hestia did.

      It's been stated that Hera and Zeus were the definite top tier for like 1500 years or whatever until they were both wiped out by OEBD. Loki and Freya weren't even the best until they banished the former top two so your reasoning of Thor familia being strong because Loki mentioned it earlier doesn't really hold up.

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    • 180.190.51.85 wrote:
      Nah. Thor could have just been mentioned as the ones named after the Norse gods were sort of the same group/were neighbors in Tenkai.Loki could have only mentioned Thor and Freya because those were the only two gods she knew that went below.  Much like how Loki didn't know about Dionysius but Hestia did.

      Loki already knew of Hestia before she descended, it's pretty obvious that they know of other gods outside of there own regions of the heavens they just have more limited interaction with them.

      It's been stated that Hera and Zeus were the definite top tier for like 1500 years or whatever until they were both wiped out by OEBD. 

      It hasn't been stated when Zeus and Hera descended, also you've added an extra 500 years to the entire period the gods have been on the earth. 

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    • 180.190.51.85 wrote: Nah. Thor could have just been mentioned as the ones named after the Norse gods were sort of the same group/were neighbors in Tenkai.Loki could have only mentioned Thor and Freya because those were the only two gods she knew that went below.  Much like how Loki didn't know about Dionysius but Hestia did.

      It's been stated that Hera and Zeus were the definite top tier for like 1500 years or whatever until they were both wiped out by OEBD. Loki and Freya weren't even the best until they banished the former top two so your reasoning of Thor familia being strong because Loki mentioned it earlier doesn't really hold up.

      Kevin hunt already pointed out those misinformation so I'm just going to add Gods have this thing called arcanum one of its abilities Dimension Mirror (not sure forgot the name) pretty sure she knew what was the current state of affairs in the lower world. It's also not stated that Zues and Hera are the strongest Famillia at the time Loki decended.

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    • 49.149.191.65 wrote: I'm just going to add Gods have this thing called arcanum one of its abilities Dimension Mirror (not sure forgot the name)

      It doesn't have a name

      It's also not stated that Zues and Hera are the strongest Famillia at the time Loki decended.

      Hermes states that they were the strongest until 15 years ago

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    • The other level 7 is the knight of knights (it was said that he is the only one who could stop ottar).he was mentioned in memoria freeze the grand day event,It was said that he wan't an adventurer and that he is likely in the seas ( probably poisden familia).

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    • It was never stated that the Knight of Knights was Level 7, you don't have to be the same level to do something like that

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    • 196.141.198.116 wrote: The other level 7 is the knight of knights (it was said that he is the only one who could stop ottar).he was mentioned in memoria freeze the grand day event,It was said that he wan't an adventurer and that he is likely in the seas ( probably poisden familia).

      if it was level 7. it is clear he is a fighter as strong as Otarr. this is not going to be a knight or something like he's defeating Otarr

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    • He could've just been a Level 6 with a specific skil. A knight is known for duels so maybe he gets buffs if he's having a duel/one-on-one with someone or fighting for chivalry and shit. He doesn't have to immediately be a Level 7 to be equal to Ottar.

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    • Remember that the 3 Executive of Loki Familia can also fight Ottar if they are serious. Finn with incredible speed, manuver ability, and his high range attack can also defeat or on par with Ottar. Riveria's strong magic can damage Ottar's body if she really serious. Gareth's durability, his choose of weapon, his body weight can rival or probably stronger than Ottar. You dont really need to be in the same level as the highest one to be called on par or defeat those person. You just need to have more advantages and luck against those person.

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    • They can fight him and hold their own, but i doubt they can beat ottar 1v1. Riverias magic aint taggin him without a distraction. All of what gareth excells at ottar does better. Finn is your best bet and even then i doubt his attacks can put ottar down.

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    • Experience, all of what they need to do is doing what they had experienced before. The three of them, probably has more exoerience in fight than Ottar. Ottar can be overpowered by experience and skill. Yes, Ottar also has experience and skill, but it doesn't meanhe is invicible. Ottar also a being, he can tired too. Even Ais can beat ottar if she is serious enough and using Ariel while fight Ottar. But hey, they are training now and Ais now got more powerful, what she need to do is to feel that "Ottar is a monster and need to be kill".

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    • Dante Ryu wrote: Even Ais can beat ottar if she is serious enough and using Ariel while fight Ottar.

      If you don't remember, Ottar easily dealt with Ariel Ais in SO 4 and was also stronger than her during their training

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    • Ahh, okay exclude Ais then.

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    • Dante Ryu wrote: The three of them, probably has more exoerience in fight than Ottar. Ottar can be overpowered by experience and skill.

      True, you could beat anyone with experience and skill, but what you're claiming here is speculation and not fact

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    • Angelo Gabrini wrote:

      Dante Ryu wrote: Even Ais can beat ottar if she is serious enough and using Ariel while fight Ottar.

      If you don't remember, Ottar easily dealt with Ariel Ais in SO 4 and was also stronger than her during their training

      thought ais did quite a bit of damage to ottar when she used lil lafarga?

      and she backed off last minute?

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    • I wouldn't really consider cuts to be "quite a bit of damage". Yes, Ais held back with Ariel because she was afraid of killing him, but Ottar wasn't serious either

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    • I think Ottar was thrown back like Ais.

      If u take account of holding back and additional strength available (stronger wind against Revis), ais is probably 2nd strongest 1-on-1 fighting currently.

      After Bell levels, with argonaut enhancement, would not be surprised he has reached 3rd or soon to be (surpassing Finn/Bete/Gareth).

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    • Kinda depends if Finn, Riveria and Gareth get level 7 at the end of the SO story.

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    • Ca1piggy wrote:
      I think Ottar was thrown back like Ais.

      Yes but all he had to show for it was scrapes. More importantly Ottar never attacked back.

      If u take account of holding back and additional strength available (stronger wind against Revis), ais is probably 2nd strongest 1-on-1 fighting currently.

      Ais multi-chant Ariel has some problematic draw backs and there again that wasn't enough to stop Revis, Ais would have been killed if Bete hadn't saved her at the last moment.

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    • Kevhunt06 wrote:
      Ca1piggy wrote:
      I think Ottar was thrown back like Ais.
      Yes but all he had to show for it was scrapes. More importantly Ottar never attacked back.
      If u take account of holding back and additional strength available (stronger wind against Revis), ais is probably 2nd strongest 1-on-1 fighting currently.
      Ais multi-chant Ariel has some problematic draw backs and there again that wasn't enough to stop Revis, Ais would have been killed if Bete hadn't saved her at the last moment.

      I think Ottar training only increased Ais' stats by 250 pts all together? If so, that is hardly likely to make a difference against Revis, known to be a level 7 monster. I think Ottar's primary training is getting Ais to treat Revis like a monster so she is free to let loose completely on her magic, possibly like the girl in Firestarter.

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    • Ca1piggy wrote:

      I think Ottar training only increased Ais' stats by 250 pts all together? If so, that is hardly likely to make a difference against Revis, known to be a level 7 monster. I think Ottar's primary training is getting Ais to treat Revis like a monster so she is free to let loose completely on her magic, possibly like the girl in Firestarter.

      I'd say more of the concept of fighting to kill and not holding anything back than specifically her magic. Ais used her magic to her fullest extent in SO seven to no avail, granted she was badly injured by that point but it still only slowed Revis down.

      Revis has been foreshadowed to have a weakness, her power level may fluctuates.

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    • Kevhunt06 wrote:
      Ca1piggy wrote:

      I think Ottar training only increased Ais' stats by 250 pts all together? If so, that is hardly likely to make a difference against Revis, known to be a level 7 monster. I think Ottar's primary training is getting Ais to treat Revis like a monster so she is free to let loose completely on her magic, possibly like the girl in Firestarter.

      I'd say more of the concept of fighting to kill and not holding anything back than specifically her magic. Ais used her magic to her fullest extent in SO seven to no avail, granted she was badly injured by that point but it still only slowed Revis down.

      Revis has been foreshadowed to have a weakness, her power level may fluctuates.

      Alternatively it could be Ais releasing her 'full' power kind of like Storm with her eyes blazing white 

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    • Dante Ryu wrote:
      Finn with incredible speed, manuver ability, and his high range attack can also defeat or on par with Ottar.

      I'm not sure why you think Finn excels at speed. His Agility isn't even that high, his main stat is Dexterity. Sure, it's B, but I don't think Ottar will lose to him in speed, especially with a level advantage.

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    • Otarr easily defeats 2 Level 6 adventurers from the Loki family. Otarr really does not really fight hardly ever. I'm pretty sure he's very strong

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    • Ottar beats any1 in loki family 1o1 atm, it isnt even a contest. Theres a big wall between levels, the only character that could break that wall so far would be bell himself. And even then.

      Pretty certain the other lv 7 is the knight of knights, the author will need to pull a major plot twist for it not to be at this point. If hes lv6 he needs to have an absurd broken skill to match a veteran lv7, its not like Ottar is a newly lv7...

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    • Well 1vs1 isn't a contest for Ottar. Thought if it was Finn, Gareth and Riveria vs Ottar then it would be different story. Those three are extremaly experienced after all, I don't think even Ottar would be able to win with a team like that.

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    • 185.209.251.243 wrote:
      Well 1vs1 isn't a contest for Ottar. Thought if it was Finn, Gareth and Riveria vs Ottar then it would be different story. Those three are extremaly experienced after all, I don't think even Ottar would be able to win with a team like that.

      The gap between level was real tho. The problem is, Danmachi level system is not the same like ppl used to know. Level 6 to 7 more like level 600 to 700. They might give him a fight but defeating him would be hard. Its not bcuz they lack of experience, the level system itself just too broken. The only person thats broken enough to surpass the gap between lvl is only bell for now. As u can see, even Ottar said Ais was too slow even tho that we knew she's just a level below him. This is just a speculation, but there are so many fights like this already when a higher lvl person outplayed a lower level below him/her.

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    • The danmemo knight of knights is probably non canon because he is a game character.

      The only possibly familias that could have lvl 7right now are the ones that are not orario so that limits our "choices" of them. I think these are the familias that could have a lvl 7 right now:

      The Poseidon Familia: They are most likely fighting everyday to cleanse the seas of the monsters so this would be logicly at least.

      State of Athena: Its one of the power house regions because of their adventurers and they at least are a little bit similiar to the kali familia not because they organize these "rituals" the Kali Familia does but the city is constantly in a power fight to each other.

      Zeus and Hera Alliance: I stated this multiple times as of right now but i think it could be something cool and plot changing. We dont know if Zeus and Hera where banished from orario or if they leaved it on their own choices because the city was in chaos. But it would be a great plot twist that these two familias come back with regained strenght, it would even be better if Bells mother was the second lvl 7 adventurer. It would be great to see that bell at least has one parent part alive to interact with, it would be really a very emotional scene when Bell rushes at Zeus with full power and bull takles him and screams grandfather as he crys hugging his long thought dead grandfather while Hera hugs him too practicly because she could be his grandma. Then Bells mother comes in and they gods leave there when his mother hugs him tightly crying apologyizing that she couldnt be there for him etc. I would love to see something like that. I did a very more detailed version of this in an another thread but i dont know anymore which it was.

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    • Drake Atlas wrote:
      The danmemo knight of knights is probably non canon because he is a game character.

      The only possibly familias that could have lvl 7right now are the ones that are not orario so that limits our "choices" of them. I think these are the familias that could have a lvl 7 right now:

      The Poseidon Familia: They are most likely fighting everyday to cleanse the seas of the monsters so this would be logicly at least.

      State of Athena: Its one of the power house regions because of their adventurers and they at least are a little bit similiar to the kali familia not because they organize these "rituals" the Kali Familia does but the city is constantly in a power fight to each other.

      Zeus and Hera Alliance: I stated this multiple times as of right now but i think it could be something cool and plot changing. We dont know if Zeus and Hera where banished from orario or if they leaved it on their own choices because the city was in chaos. But it would be a great plot twist that these two familias come back with regained strenght, it would even be better if Bells mother was the second lvl 7 adventurer. It would be great to see that bell at least has one parent part alive to interact with, it would be really a very emotional scene when Bell rushes at Zeus with full power and bull takles him and screams grandfather as he crys hugging his long thought dead grandfather while Hera hugs him too practicly because she could be his grandma. Then Bells mother comes in and they gods leave there when his mother hugs him tightly crying apologyizing that she couldnt be there for him etc. I would love to see something like that. I did a very more detailed version of this in an another thread but i dont know anymore which it was.

      The Zeus Familia and Hera Familia were exiled by Loki Familia and Freya Familia because they saw the opportunity after they were defeated by the One Eyed Black Dragon and were weak, so so it was not really a choice of them but it could still be that they have some powerful members that became stronger or that they recruited some new ones.

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    • 82.154.158.231 wrote:
      Ottar beats any1 in loki family 1o1 atm, it isnt even a contest. Theres a big wall between levels, the only character that could break that wall so far would be bell himself. And even then.

      Pretty certain the other lv 7 is the knight of knights, the author will need to pull a major plot twist for it not to be at this point. If hes lv6 he needs to have an absurd broken skill to match a veteran lv7, its not like Ottar is a newly lv7...

      He is not Level 6, the little that was said about him is that he is Level 7

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    • It was never said that the character was Level 7 either, people need to stop making up facts. All that was said was that he was able to stand up to Ottar

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    • Angelo Gabrini wrote:
      It was never said that the character was Level 7 either, people need to stop making up facts. All that was said was that he was able to stand up to Ottar

      It was said that there were 2 Level 7 and how would he be able to stand against Ottar if he/she wasn’t a Level 7? The only one that is able to superpass the gap between levels is Bell. So is not a making up fact.

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    • 2806:103E:17:35B3:4D87:15C3:D23:4F22 wrote: how would he be able to stand against Ottar if he/she wasn’t a Level 7? The only one that is able to superpass the gap between levels is Bell.

      The same way other adventurers fight higher level opponents to level up, using techniques, skills, development abilities, etc. Bell just has an easier time because of his op stat boost, there are plenty of examples of adventurers fighting higher level monsters

      So is not a making up fact.

      Claiming something that hasn't been explicitly mentioned (barring obvious implications) is still speculation, not fact

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    • Angelo Gabrini wrote:

      2806:103E:17:35B3:4D87:15C3:D23:4F22 wrote: how would he be able to stand against Ottar if he/she wasn’t a Level 7? The only one that is able to superpass the gap between levels is Bell.

      The same way other adventurers fight higher level opponents to level up, using techniques, skills, development abilities, etc. Bell just has an easier time because of his op stat boost, there are plenty of examples of adventurers fighting higher level monsters

      I don't think its a good example to use monsters as a comparison when you fight a person, if we are talking about 1v1. Defeating a monster equal to lvl 3 is a completely different matters with defeating a lvl 3 person. Just like you said, adventurers can use techniques, skills, etc to outplay the opponent while monster might do the same but ofc with limitation. I mean minotour can't use magic right? unless its not a normal monster. Other than that yea its not a fact if he's a lvl 7 or not but If this knight of knight fight with his own skill alone, either Ottar was so dumb that he doesnt have his own technique, skills, development abilities etc, that the only thing that he has is an incridible strength(umm like monsters?), or he's a broken chara like Bell.

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    • I know, the point I was making is that it isn't impossible for low levels to fight higher level opponents

      We don't know anything about the "Knight of Knights" so speculating about him is kind of pointless

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    • Angelo Gabrini wrote:
      I know, the point I was making is that it isn't impossible for low levels to fight higher level opponents

      We don't know anything about the "Knight of Knights" so speculating about him is kind of pointless

      Yes, but still as the wiki says Ottar is one of the only 2 Level 7, so if the knight of knights it is said that is the only one able to fight against him then it just make sense that he is the other Level 7

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    • 189.180.31.48 wrote:

      Angelo Gabrini wrote:
      I know, the point I was making is that it isn't impossible for low levels to fight higher level opponents

      We don't know anything about the "Knight of Knights" so speculating about him is kind of pointless

      Yes, but still as the wiki says Ottar is one of the only 2 Level 7, so if the knight of knights it is said that is the only one able to fight against him then it just make sense that he is the other Level 7

      Well,the game isn't canon,most of it is just for sake of fun,it does not coincide with light novel.

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    • And I have a doubt,is Mia grand really only level 6? It wasn't stated or confirmed by Author anywhere,I think. Maybe she retired after she reached level 7. What do you think?

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    • Kakerumaiko wrote:
      And I have a doubt,is Mia grand really only level 6? It wasn't stated or confirmed by Author anywhere,I think. Maybe she retired after she reached level 7. What do you think?

      It was mentioned somewhere that she is a lvl 6. And even if this info was false I doubt she is a lvl 7. If she was then it would be known. On another side if she hid the fact that she is a lvl 7 then the world would be sure that there is only one lvl 7(ottar). So I am quite sure everyone knows who exacly is the other lvl 7 it just wasn't mentioned in the series yet. 

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    • It's mentioned near the end of Episode Ryuu

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    • Dbigal wrote:
      Maybe Poseidon Familia or any familia that lives in one of the other two great unexplored regions of the world.

      most probably it would be from the Zeus Familia aka Bell's [adopted]grandfather's familia

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